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it's me it's me ben i'm by myself what's

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up everybody

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uh joe is uh working a little late

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tonight so uh i thought i'd start the

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show off with something a little a

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little new okay

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uh i've never done this before i'm not a

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i know some people that do news

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but i read i read some news so this time

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i'm gonna i'm gonna say the news and i

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came up with the thing

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n-t-a-h-b-n-i-s-i

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news that already happened but now i'm

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saying it okay

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and the first thing that's on our list

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is uh darpa

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funded researchers accidentally

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discovered the world's first

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warp bubble everybody's talking about it

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i mean this already happened now i'm

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saying it

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it's pretty cool i mean uh darpa as we

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all know has been this kind of like

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crazy science fiction uh overlord of

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uh technology and and research we don't

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i mean we know we know a little bit we

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know how it's spelled

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but all we've been seeing all you've

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work here that's all i remember of darpa

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enough to know what happened but it was

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this um

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about this this cool like space space

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looks pretty cool but anyway i guess

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that same concept was discovered by

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margaritaville coming to a scene near

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chain margaritaville is taking to the

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this is on tmz oh oh i should mention

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shout out to the debrief

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margaritaville at sea paradise cruise

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maps you can dream about the places you

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there's a lot of people in the chat i

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and bring in our guest adam ambrose

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ladies and gentlemen

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there's not much more like we just don't

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we're probably not gonna hear anything

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space invaders oh look this is a this is

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space invaders aliens may have already

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um take my banners off

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just joining us uh joe is working a

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he's doing all kinds of stuff he's

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uh lift things hopefully he doesn't

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our director of our documentary whatever

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let's say what's up with everybody in

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spooky morales thank you for that super

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all right getting it started felice and

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happy dad hell yeah dude we got santa

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that we've been working on our good

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this past weekend and uh showing your

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the title is biggest alien abduction

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biggest because there is a lot to it

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there is so much to this story

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i want to give adam ambrose before i

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bring him on because we like to let our

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guests introduce himself so ladies and

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gentlemen

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adam ambrose what's up brother how are

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hello

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how are you doing

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good man good man good to hear your

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it's great to be here

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a fun couple of weeks just kind of

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getting to know you via email as much as

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uh without chatting with you but uh i

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mean we chat about a couple things that

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i was surprised but yeah i follow him on

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youtube

284
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yeah pretty interesting

285
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dude when he when he uh posted that

286
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video about starting his own youtube

287
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channel it was like it got like what

288
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like two million two million views just

289
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oh yeah

290
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i know it was like overnight all of a

291
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sudden nobody and then just like two

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million views and you know millions of

293
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followers or however many it was in the

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first week

295
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i feel like that dude has got to have

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some

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only with like

298
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maybe hallucinogens but

299
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but like all life-altering stuff i mean

300
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the guy talks about bigfoot and aliens

301
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and all kinds of stuff all the stuff

302
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we're all into

303
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i don't know what do you think

304
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nothing i i hadn't yeah i guess he i

305
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think i've seen him wear like a bigfoot

306
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t-shirt like he's kind of is he into

307
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paranormal but

308
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um

309
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he definitely strikes me as someone who

310
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would you know

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be open to that you know

312
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definitely

313
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yeah so uh that would be cool i mean i

314
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i've never heard i don't know one way or

315
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the other if he's had any sort of uh

316
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experiences i'd like to know you know

317
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he should open up about it if he has

318
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right i mean if if he has and i'm just

319
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like

320
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guessing here just based off of his

321
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music and his personality i mean the

322
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guy's been in so many movies i don't

323
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know if you know how many movies this

324
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dude has been in but it's a lot it's a

325
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dozens and dozens of

326
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big big phones too

327
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yeah and even if they're small films

328
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yeah so like

329
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as is some money is is big name is jack

330
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black i mean i'm just speculating that

331
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he might maybe have has seen something

332
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in the sky that he can't explain there's

333
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there's plenty of uh of people that uh

334
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that have that are in

335
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in acting or

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or music or musicians that have

337
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sightings we talk about this a lot on

338
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the show that there's something about

339
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the person that uh

340
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that that that's

341
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connected with the arts in some way

342
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that they're maybe

343
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we're still trying to figure this out

344
00:12:59,350 --> 00:12:57,440
like we don't know but maybe they're

345
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more susceptible to this uh this

346
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phenomenon

347
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or maybe they can see it more clearly

348
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maybe

349
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it's that they have an open mind and

350
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this thing is really all about

351
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the consciousness aspect

352
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or

353
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looking at it is that uh that aliens are

354
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more interested and and the people we

355
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find

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interesting or the the people that put

357
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out the most art and the most

358
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entertainment like maybe they just want

359
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to

360
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dab up

361
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jack black you know like well that was a

362
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wrong hand move but you know

363
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yeah

364
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could be it you know

365
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i think uh

366
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there is definitely a connection there

367
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because

368
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a lot of the uh abductees are creative

369
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artistic types

370
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and uh they may not do it for a

371
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profession not everyone's lucky enough

372
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to do

373
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that for performing for a profession

374
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i performed you know i'm a trained actor

375
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i've just never done it professionally

376
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but i've always wanted to but i think

377
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there's a connection with uh creativity

378
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and plus i have uh

379
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not diagnosed but i have like traits of

380
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being on the autism spectrum

381
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and i know that that comes with a lot of

382
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a creative

383
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creative awareness in general thinking

384
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outside of the box definitely someone

385
00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:21,920
like jack black but he reminds me of

386
00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:24,480
robin williams the way they improv

387
00:14:30,150 --> 00:14:26,880
is just so spontaneous he just lives in

388
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that like he's that's who he is

389
00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:33,120
and so it wouldn't surprise me

390
00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:35,600
no it wouldn't touch me at all

391
00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:37,920
yeah i love that i love i love a lot

392
00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:39,360
about what you just said because you

393
00:14:42,550 --> 00:14:41,040
know it's it

394
00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:42,560
we talked about this a little bit with

395
00:14:47,030 --> 00:14:44,880
our our guest last week on the spectrum

396
00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:47,040
of of the types of brains and we just

397
00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:48,480
putting labels on something black and

398
00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:50,720
white it's it's it's a little i think

399
00:14:53,509 --> 00:14:51,920
it's a little outdated i think we can

400
00:14:54,870 --> 00:14:53,519
all at this point say that

401
00:14:56,389 --> 00:14:54,880
everybody's got a little something you

402
00:14:59,030 --> 00:14:56,399
know and that's what makes us all

403
00:15:02,470 --> 00:14:59,040
interesting and fun

404
00:15:04,790 --> 00:15:02,480
but in your experience adam um

405
00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:04,800
you were have you always been in in the

406
00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:06,560
arts or when you first started having

407
00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:07,920
your experience i mean where do we want

408
00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:09,760
to start tonight i know we kind of went

409
00:15:13,509 --> 00:15:11,600
back and forth but uh i mean there's

410
00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:13,519
there's a couple of ways we can kind of

411
00:15:18,629 --> 00:15:15,519
dive in because there's so much dude and

412
00:15:23,110 --> 00:15:20,389
i guess maybe is there a connection with

413
00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:23,120
the arts or or music or anything that

414
00:15:25,990 --> 00:15:24,800
you've been into that kind of coincides

415
00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:26,000
with some of your experiences that

416
00:15:29,509 --> 00:15:27,839
you've had

417
00:15:31,910 --> 00:15:29,519
well

418
00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:31,920
yeah it's uh

419
00:15:37,749 --> 00:15:34,880
in my life i've always been

420
00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:37,759
creative i've always been into the arts

421
00:15:41,590 --> 00:15:38,800
i had

422
00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:41,600
piano lessons when i was seven years old

423
00:15:46,310 --> 00:15:42,800
actually

424
00:15:49,269 --> 00:15:46,320
it runs in my family my mother was a

425
00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:49,279
piano player she played a classical and

426
00:15:53,749 --> 00:15:51,839
recital she wasn't like

427
00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:53,759
you know virtuoso but she could play

428
00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:56,320
classical so we had a baby grand piano

429
00:16:00,069 --> 00:15:58,480
in the house so i was playing piano

430
00:16:03,829 --> 00:16:00,079
since i was seven

431
00:16:06,550 --> 00:16:03,839
and uh you know art classes and um

432
00:16:07,749 --> 00:16:06,560
i always you know excelled at that like

433
00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:07,759
my teachers always said that you could

434
00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:09,920
be a professional artist if you want to

435
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:11,600
but it's like i couldn't decide what to

436
00:16:14,949 --> 00:16:12,399
do

437
00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:14,959
i'd be a painter and oh now i'm writing

438
00:16:19,269 --> 00:16:16,800
music like i've heard a lot of music in

439
00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:19,279
my teen years so and i thought i might

440
00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:21,360
do that but then i kind of settled into

441
00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:23,360
the idea of acting

442
00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:25,199
actually that goes back to when i was

443
00:16:27,910 --> 00:16:26,160
seven

444
00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:27,920
that i was i always just thought of

445
00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:29,199
myself as

446
00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:30,320
you know

447
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:32,160
having the dream to perform because when

448
00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:34,320
i was seven years old i saw

449
00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:35,120
this

450
00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:37,040
it was a disney animated film that they

451
00:16:41,590 --> 00:16:39,680
re-released i think it was a song

452
00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:41,600
i just thought it was so magical the way

453
00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:44,800
that mixed live action with cartoons and

454
00:16:48,069 --> 00:16:46,560
i didn't understand what a film was at

455
00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:48,079
that age and i was i might have been

456
00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:50,560
like five or six and i was like that's

457
00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:52,800
magic up there on this screen and i want

458
00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:54,959
to be part of that and i know that with

459
00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:56,959
these alien abduction experiences like

460
00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:59,360
my brother has a memory of waiting at

461
00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:01,519
the window in his bedroom when he's a

462
00:17:05,669 --> 00:17:04,160
little kid and he and he told me this as

463
00:17:07,270 --> 00:17:05,679
adults he said you know

464
00:17:09,669 --> 00:17:07,280
i would sit at the window every night

465
00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:09,679
because one night i felt peter pan come

466
00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:11,919
to the window we flew out the window and

467
00:17:16,630 --> 00:17:13,679
i would always wait for peter pan to

468
00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:16,640
come back and so the aliens do

469
00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:19,520
make you see whatever they want you to

470
00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:22,480
see peter pan mickey mouse whatever

471
00:17:26,949 --> 00:17:24,880
calms you and makes you feel good they

472
00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:26,959
might present that way to you

473
00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:28,880
so if you're connected to that kind of

474
00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:32,480
idea they definitely play into that but

475
00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:34,960
it's also just a personality thing like

476
00:17:38,710 --> 00:17:36,400
that they like

477
00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:38,720
people who are more receptive general

478
00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:40,400
nature and artistic because they're

479
00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:42,720
going to be more malleable

480
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:45,600
and open to like this you know when i

481
00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:46,960
was a little kid they were just my

482
00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:48,960
friends they weren't aliens they would

483
00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:50,720
come to me as my friends like almost

484
00:17:57,669 --> 00:17:55,190
and how old were you when this was

485
00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:57,679
started happening

486
00:18:02,150 --> 00:17:59,120
well you know what

487
00:18:04,789 --> 00:18:02,160
i've said this before my earliest memory

488
00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:04,799
goes back to being in the crib sleeping

489
00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:06,400
in my parents room

490
00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:07,520
i saw

491
00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:10,000
a purple ball of light hovering over the

492
00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:10,880
crib

493
00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:13,600
that's my earliest memory so

494
00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:16,240
whatever that was one or two years old

495
00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:18,559
that that's amazing that you your memory

496
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:20,960
could go that far back dude not a lot of

497
00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:23,760
people can do that this this is

498
00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:25,919
something i've heard and i've looked

499
00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:28,000
into that and yeah that's true some

500
00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:29,760
people do remember that far back and

501
00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:31,600
some don't i i do

502
00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:33,440
i don't remember everything every day in

503
00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:36,160
my life but certain things stand out

504
00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:38,559
and certainly these experiences had a

505
00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:40,960
lot of powerful emotion with it

506
00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:43,280
so i remember it

507
00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:45,039
better you know than just the everyday

508
00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:46,559
stuff

509
00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:48,160
right

510
00:18:52,549 --> 00:18:51,679
so uh i i'm a new father myself uh in my

511
00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:52,559
oh

512
00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:55,440
yeah so i she's two months old today

513
00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:57,280
actually is her two-month birthday yeah

514
00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:00,320
october 9 30. yeah and uh man it's just

515
00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:02,559
been wild seeing her or grow and i've

516
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:04,400
just been kind of looking

517
00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:06,720
back at myself through her lens in a way

518
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:07,760
and like

519
00:19:11,669 --> 00:19:10,160
relating all these you know there's a

520
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:11,679
there's a theory out there and i'm sure

521
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:12,960
there's a book published and i'm sorry i

522
00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:14,640
don't know the person that you know has

523
00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:17,360
this theory but a lot of uh abduction

524
00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:18,960
cases can

525
00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:21,360
i guess be interpreted as sub the

526
00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:24,240
subcomp subconscious or subliminal

527
00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:27,600
memories of of childhood um and

528
00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:29,360
i can see how a lot of that stuff can

529
00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:31,120
get construed

530
00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:33,520
for some people but in your case i mean

531
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:36,000
it's a very specific

532
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:37,360
uh

533
00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:39,760
chain of events and the details that you

534
00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:41,039
remember

535
00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:42,640
are not just you know laying on the

536
00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:44,960
changing table looking up at a fan right

537
00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:46,400
like

538
00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:47,679
you saw a

539
00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:49,600
a glowing purple orb and that was your

540
00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:52,400
first memory but as you get older um

541
00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:53,919
what would what would be the next story

542
00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:55,600
leading up to i mean the one you

543
00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:57,280
mentioned earlier was the the peter pan

544
00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:58,799
thing you said you were eight was there

545
00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:00,080
anything that happened in between that

546
00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:03,280
that you can remember vividly

547
00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:07,760
in between um oh yeah a lot in between

548
00:20:10,789 --> 00:20:09,280
seeing the purple

549
00:20:12,549 --> 00:20:10,799
ball of light what was the second thing

550
00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:12,559
you mentioned oh yeah you mentioned you

551
00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:14,080
mentioned with your brother the p the

552
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:18,320
peter pan coming out his window that was

553
00:20:21,669 --> 00:20:20,000
yeah that was actually around the same

554
00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:21,679
time because

555
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:23,919
i have five brothers and sisters he was

556
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,240
like four years older than me

557
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:28,799
so i would have been like six

558
00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:30,960
like 10 at that time

559
00:20:33,669 --> 00:20:32,480
and uh

560
00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:33,679
so

561
00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:36,799
there was a lot going on actually

562
00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:38,640
when i used to

563
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:40,960
also initially

564
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:43,760
see shadow people a lot and they would i

565
00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:46,720
would see these forms that look like

566
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:50,159
a human form but it was smoky dark i

567
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:53,280
would approach my doorway

568
00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:56,000
and then crunch my bed it was pretty

569
00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:58,480
scary and i'd hide under the covers

570
00:21:01,590 --> 00:20:59,760
but then

571
00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:01,600
it would go away

572
00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:03,760
like nothing would happen i just see the

573
00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:05,919
shadow figure

574
00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:09,760
but i did have other things too

575
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:11,840
you know a lot of times i'd wake up even

576
00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:13,280
as a little kid in the middle of the

577
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:14,559
night

578
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:16,320
and i don't want to say it's a dream

579
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:18,799
because it's not but a lot of times i

580
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:21,280
haven't usually used that word but what

581
00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:23,760
what they mean is what i mean is

582
00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:25,760
it's an awful state of awareness but you

583
00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:27,679
know it's not a dream because you feel

584
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:29,520
like you're awake but they've done

585
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:32,159
something to your ability to process

586
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,080
data so you're

587
00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:36,000
taking in reality differently like

588
00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:38,799
you're you're lucid and aware

589
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:40,640
but they'll they'll take away the fear

590
00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:42,080
and you're just sort of going with it

591
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,240
it's almost like they co-opt your will

592
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:46,640
somehow you're just like okay okay and

593
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:49,679
so it's like i would see a ball of light

594
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:50,720
in my room

595
00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:53,200
as a little kid hovering over over my

596
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:55,120
bed like a yellowish white

597
00:21:58,149 --> 00:21:56,720
ball of light

598
00:22:00,549 --> 00:21:58,159
and i know that this ball's about to

599
00:22:02,549 --> 00:22:00,559
communicate with me and i knew that

600
00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:02,559
inside that ball of light was

601
00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:04,240
somehow an alien

602
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:05,919
or a gray being in

603
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:08,480
what i came to later see grace in some

604
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:10,240
sort of energy form in that ball of

605
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:12,400
light because i had a lot of visitations

606
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,760
like that

607
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:15,280
and a lot of

608
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:16,799
communication with my brothers and

609
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,039
sisters they started to

610
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:21,840
indoctrinate me into this really weird

611
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:24,159
thing of the bud hopkins called it a

612
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:27,039
sisters like they trained me to assist

613
00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:29,280
in taking other people so it started

614
00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:31,679
with like my brothers and sisters with

615
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:33,679
little kids and then and then i was

616
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:36,080
helping like with the objections of

617
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:37,840
other school kids you know in my local

618
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,000
school in my class and then as i grew up

619
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:42,559
with a teenager it was like people

620
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,480
around the neighborhood it just kept

621
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:46,320
going and going and i got older i was

622
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:47,120
like

623
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:48,480
co-workers

624
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,520
it just was crazy just like so many

625
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:53,520
little objections i wouldn't necessarily

626
00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:55,679
always remember being on the craft but

627
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:56,799
the common

628
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:58,480
going the returning

629
00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:00,559
but i do i do i don't want to get ahead

630
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:02,799
of myself but i do have

631
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:05,840
you touchdown yeah i do have classic

632
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:08,799
alien reduction memories of being like

633
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:12,559
lying on the table procedures

634
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:13,440
well

635
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,400
i mean

636
00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:16,400
this show is all about being tangential

637
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:19,280
so don't worry about uh timeline yeah

638
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:22,400
but oh man okay you hit on so many

639
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:24,000
things i mean this is what we call the

640
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:25,679
biggest story

641
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,159
it goes back so uh so far

642
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:30,640
and uh man okay

643
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:33,200
when i'm so we

644
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,640
i want to touch on the shadow people

645
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:36,799
because i have a theory i want to run it

646
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:39,200
past you so i want to hear hear what

647
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:40,320
how do you

648
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:44,480
like what do you think of of that

649
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:45,360
okay

650
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:46,320
great

651
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:48,400
what i'm going to do is just

652
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:50,960
give my opinion it's speculation just

653
00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:53,520
based on my own discernment and my own

654
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:54,880
experience

655
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:57,760
i think i've got to i don't i don't know

656
00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:00,240
i don't have all the answers right but

657
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:02,799
i think the shower people are

658
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:04,640
a screen memory

659
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:05,840
put there

660
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:08,880
by the grace because from what i've seen

661
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:11,360
the grave the worker bees

662
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:13,120
the little doctors whatever you want to

663
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:16,159
call like they may even be androids but

664
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:18,000
they don't always want to just walk in

665
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:19,120
your room right because you're going to

666
00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:21,440
be freaked out they know they scare

667
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:23,600
people so they'll present

668
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,640
as a deceased relative a ghost a shadow

669
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:27,840
person

670
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,480
not just to hide their real identity but

671
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,880
also as a red herring to like confuse

672
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,159
people so that

673
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,240
they want that memory of suppressed

674
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:38,240
later right so they don't they don't

675
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:40,400
want you to remember aliens they want

676
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:42,000
you to remember oh it's all shadow

677
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:44,799
person and so it's sort of like a prim

678
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:47,039
not a primrose path but it's it's like a

679
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,200
false lead you know i'm saying they're

680
00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:51,279
sort of being deceptive by doing that

681
00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:52,880
that's that's my opinion that's how i

682
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:55,360
view it and i know some people do it

683
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:58,640
differently but you know that's my take

684
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:01,440
but the screen memory type thing yeah

685
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:04,080
yeah so in the in the moment though is

686
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:05,520
it is it

687
00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:07,600
does we go down a deeper dark rabbit

688
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,200
hole about this like is the screen

689
00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:11,360
memory happening happening in real time

690
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:13,840
are they are they influencing how you're

691
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:15,200
seeing

692
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,440
whatever this energy is like in real

693
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,360
time or yeah or do we do we see

694
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,320
something like a gray in in the moment

695
00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:24,480
and then later we remember it as a

696
00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:26,880
shadow person and they kind of like

697
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:30,080
do the do the blur over their face

698
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,880
um well i see what you're saying yeah

699
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,960
that's hard that's hard to know like how

700
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:36,480
do you how do you even answer that right

701
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:39,520
like um well

702
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:41,120
no i don't

703
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:44,240
but i'm curious so i guess uh my uh my

704
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:46,880
theory adam is that

705
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:49,760
that the shadow people uh they often are

706
00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:51,120
seen

707
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:53,279
either so there's there's two places

708
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:54,320
that are

709
00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:56,880
uh forms that i've i i haven't i've only

710
00:26:01,350 --> 00:25:59,279
personally seen one that walked through

711
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:01,360
me when i was in high school but i've

712
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:03,279
heard of a bunch of differently uh a

713
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:06,400
different accounts and there's two um

714
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:09,200
relating factors one is it

715
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:11,679
it's they're seen at a young young age

716
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:14,000
we actually had um

717
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:15,600
what joe's relative come up on stage

718
00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:18,080
last weekend and uh and and say that he

719
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:19,840
i didn't know this but he had he's been

720
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:22,640
seeing some shadow people and i mean

721
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:23,679
like you said

722
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:26,000
we don't know what this is but i think

723
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:28,240
you can choose to see this thing as

724
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:29,919
the shadow people is something really

725
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:32,480
positive um and that's that's awesome i

726
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:33,679
i would love for it to be a

727
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:36,320
manifestation of of love energy

728
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:39,039
depicted from relatives that are still

729
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,039
with us like that is that would be

730
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:43,520
awesome dude that would be awesome

731
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:44,400
but

732
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:46,400
and and my theory isn't the opposite of

733
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:47,919
that at all it's

734
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:49,200
it's simply that

735
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:50,400
maybe this

736
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:53,440
this entity whatever it is is this

737
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:56,480
this energy that we are beginning to

738
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:00,320
perceive it's neither good nor bad

739
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:03,120
it just doesn't know how to communicate

740
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:04,559
with us yet and we don't know how to

741
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:06,799
communicate with it so it

742
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:09,520
so we perceive it as this mist

743
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:11,360
because we haven't put a label on it yet

744
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:14,159
our brains part of our brains that make

745
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:16,000
decisions

746
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:18,840
doesn't know how to to look at it yet

747
00:27:24,389 --> 00:27:21,679
um oh it's not it's totally few you're

748
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:24,399
saying i mean it could be

749
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:26,240
multiple things going on because

750
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:28,399
different people are having different

751
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:30,080
experiences

752
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:30,880
um

753
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:31,840
you know

754
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,679
talk about i'm just giving you my take

755
00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:37,360
of my experience

756
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:38,799
um

757
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:40,960
so you know i filter everything through

758
00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:44,080
oh i was on a craft so i associate

759
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:45,919
strongly with the grace

760
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,720
like i tie everything back to it

761
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:50,240
i don't make that assumption like i

762
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:53,760
could be wrong but i'm just you know

763
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:55,840
it's just like what i'm familiar with

764
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:56,720
but

765
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:57,440
it's

766
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:01,120
things um

767
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:02,799
it is in real time to answer that

768
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:04,559
question for me

769
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,240
i would see it in real time and i really

770
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:08,240
thought i was awake i didn't think i was

771
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:09,760
dreaming at all

772
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:11,600
and uh

773
00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:13,600
it would just stare into the darkness

774
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:15,679
sometimes because i expected to see it

775
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:17,679
and then see it form it was almost like

776
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:19,200
the darkness

777
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:21,440
formed into the shackled person

778
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:23,760
and uh it was scary

779
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:26,960
but the other thing is like you said

780
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,919
with

781
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:29,520
ghosts

782
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,520
my uh

783
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:33,200
my brother-in-law

784
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,120
uh he was driving down the highway one

785
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,520
day and all of a sudden his mother

786
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:39,520
appeared sitting beside him in the car

787
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:40,960
he wasn't afraid

788
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:42,399
it was peaceful

789
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:43,600
and loving

790
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:45,520
and then he found out later that day

791
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,080
that she died that day he didn't know

792
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:50,799
she appeared in his car

793
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:52,000
and uh

794
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,240
so this i've heard he started my own

795
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:56,559
family you know

796
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:58,880
so and i know that's common

797
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:59,760
wow

798
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,799
so that

799
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:02,640
the uh the first thing that i mentioned

800
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:04,640
with that that i've seen and that we're

801
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:07,279
talking about is is uh it was at a young

802
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:09,120
age but what you're hitting on now adam

803
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:09,840
is

804
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:12,799
have

805
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:14,880
uh experiences with shadow people when

806
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:16,480
they're going through some type of

807
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:19,200
traumatic experience or high stress

808
00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:20,399
in their life

809
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:22,240
and that's that's super interesting i

810
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:24,080
think there's a lot of correlations my

811
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:27,360
my father-in-law is a practicing uh

812
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:29,360
physician and we had this conversation

813
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:31,200
over thanksgiving

814
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:34,080
and uh i mean he he's not really like

815
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:34,799
he

816
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:48,000
i've got i've got a link to uh uh for it

817
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:50,559
that he that he texted me but uh there

818
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:52,559
there's all kinds of studies that with

819
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:54,320
um

820
00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:57,120
with the patients in hospice that

821
00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:59,840
are going through this high stress um

822
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:02,000
time in their life they can pinpoint it

823
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:03,360
to like hey yeah that's when i got

824
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:04,799
alzheimer's is when i started getting

825
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,679
sick you know or this is when my spouse

826
00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:09,440
died i started getting cancer i started

827
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:11,600
so these all these leading up uh

828
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:14,640
experiences causes the body to start to

829
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:16,399
just break down and who's to say if your

830
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,640
body's breaking down can your mind and

831
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:20,559
your and your perception of reality

832
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:24,870
yeah

833
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:25,679
that

834
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:26,720
actually

835
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,760
my father is a retired physician

836
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:31,840
and i've talked to him about a lot of my

837
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:33,120
experiences

838
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:34,960
and it is interesting to talk to someone

839
00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:37,600
like that because we're very different

840
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:39,520
it needs to be very clinical minded and

841
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,840
academic about the book

842
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:43,600
so there's a lot i could tell you about

843
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:45,600
that but i'm just

844
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:46,799
you know

845
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:50,399
about what you said um which i think ah

846
00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:51,520
i mean

847
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:55,039
i'm kind of sometimes i get kind of

848
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:57,039
go ahead so you had some conversations

849
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:58,880
and and and yeah the person you were

850
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,640
talking to was open to it i love that i

851
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:02,559
mean just being open to talking about it

852
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:05,200
is like a step i think

853
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,279
uh humanity would be a lot better off if

854
00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:09,600
we were all just like hey yeah okay

855
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:10,880
let's just talk about this stuff this is

856
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:12,960
happening this is weird

857
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:15,200
uh yeah you you might be a doc you may

858
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:16,960
be a doctor i might be just you know a

859
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:19,360
musician or or whatever

860
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:20,880
and we should be still be able to talk

861
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,480
about it and respect each other for it

862
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:24,720
um yeah

863
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:27,120
right you don't have to commit and just

864
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:29,840
because i've concluded something

865
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,240
i'm not trying to necessarily impose my

866
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:34,720
beliefs on the other person but my

867
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:35,600
father

868
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:37,760
tended to always um

869
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:38,799
be so

870
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,200
pragmatic like he was thinking

871
00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:42,960
see what they're going to say about that

872
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,799
i mean it's kind of overwhelming because

873
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:46,480
i start talking about my father eight

874
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:47,679
years ago

875
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:49,600
like it's like

876
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:52,000
i i had a hard time talking to him about

877
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:52,799
it

878
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,600
um

879
00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:59,120
he you know

880
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:00,960
my mother's open mind and other friendly

881
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:03,120
members are open-minded toward it

882
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:05,039
but i think some people just it's

883
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:08,159
outside of their familiar experience

884
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,080
and so

885
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:12,000
it's hard for them to open that door i

886
00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:13,440
guess

887
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:15,279
it maybe it's just it's scary too you

888
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:17,200
know it's just scary

889
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:19,840
um it's scary to me but i'm just so

890
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:22,000
familiar with it it's like i have a need

891
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:24,720
to talk about it's not like i have

892
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,320
a strong interest driving me i do have

893
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:30,320
an interest in the subject but it's

894
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,600
moreover

895
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,679
i experienced it so i'm like i'm

896
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,760
living it it kind of hurts my feelings

897
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:37,840
sometimes if the family members like

898
00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:40,000
closed off like i don't want to hear

899
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:42,159
that stop talking about that and that's

900
00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:44,480
happened to me because

901
00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:46,399
they're almost like saying i'm not

902
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:48,880
interested in your life yeah like that's

903
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:50,399
what i hear

904
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,760
but

905
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:52,960
100

906
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:55,200
it's not like you're choosing

907
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:58,240
for this to happen to you like

908
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:01,440
yeah no not at all i didn't

909
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:03,360
want it to happen to me

910
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:05,600
that's a good point it's just there's

911
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:07,600
something that just happens and then you

912
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,720
think wait a minute the first you think

913
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:12,559
you're a little kid you think

914
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:14,799
nobody else has experienced it

915
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:16,559
and then you find out a lot of people

916
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:17,919
have

917
00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:19,360
it's just uh

918
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:21,279
quite you know

919
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,120
uh you know just it smashes your

920
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:25,679
paradigm card expands your awareness

921
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:27,440
and uh

922
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:29,679
um

923
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:30,610
yeah i mean

924
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:32,159
[Music]

925
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:34,960
yeah so i mean i i guess i was uh i was

926
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:36,240
thinking in the back of my mind we're

927
00:33:40,149 --> 00:33:38,000
talking about you know acceptance and

928
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:40,159
and your loved ones being able to openly

929
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:42,399
talk talk about it and um

930
00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:43,279
definitely

931
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:45,760
from a young age like yourself you've

932
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:47,120
been kind of dealing with the stuff your

933
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:48,320
whole life

934
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:49,840
um

935
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,559
i uh i'm just curious man like are you

936
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,320
are you willing to open up about some of

937
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,640
the experiences that that we can

938
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:58,240
tangibly i know we spoke over the email

939
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,679
about tangible

940
00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:01,360
things that people can relate to because

941
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:03,200
we've got a lot of listeners that uh

942
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,960
have are are currently having

943
00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:06,559
experiences themselves and it helps a

944
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:07,519
lot to

945
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:09,119
to kind of hear others talk about their

946
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:11,280
their experiences as well i mean uh

947
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:12,159
that's

948
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:16,720
some it could be scary but it can be

949
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:19,280
also like it could be fun and

950
00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:21,200
the fun part could be let's let's just

951
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:23,359
chat about it we can find humor in it

952
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:24,639
and maybe there's a light at the end of

953
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:26,480
the tunnel but like i guess my question

954
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:27,440
is like

955
00:34:31,510 --> 00:34:28,720
uh

956
00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:31,520
is there is there anything about about a

957
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:35,200
visual a visual visual or physical

958
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:36,399
experiences

959
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:38,240
that you've had in your life that that

960
00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:39,599
you could that you're willing to talk

961
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:41,679
about tonight

962
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:43,200
oh yeah no

963
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:44,879
i'm willing to

964
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:47,119
dive right in and talk about any and

965
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:50,480
everything i've experienced um

966
00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:52,879
you're talking about in terms of

967
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:55,359
having like physical trace things i

968
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:57,839
noticed in the environment

969
00:35:02,950 --> 00:34:59,119
yeah

970
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:02,960
i'm curious as to like what uh

971
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:05,200
what uh species maybe you've encountered

972
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:06,720
and maybe what they look like and what

973
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:15,270
i encountered primarily what people call

974
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:16,960
graves

975
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,520
the small thin beings

976
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:21,599
with the large heads and large heads and

977
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:24,960
darker eyes who weren't really gray they

978
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:27,200
were certainly more their skin was more

979
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:34,310
and i don't know if there's lighting on

980
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:36,560
the craft that can affect the appearance

981
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:37,920
of the skin

982
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:39,680
but uh

983
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:41,920
it was primarily great i had one

984
00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:46,000
encounter where i saw a tall nordic bean

985
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:48,400
and one one encounter where i saw a

986
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:49,839
mantis being

987
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:51,280
which was

988
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:52,880
more vague

989
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:55,040
i'm like 89

990
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:57,119
sure that it was a manta spin because it

991
00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:59,440
was just so admiring it was similar to a

992
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:02,000
great but it was tall had a long neck

993
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:04,079
and a different shaped head so it was

994
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:06,880
sort of in the shadows and i thought

995
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:08,400
um but i'm pretty sure that was a

996
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:09,760
manchester

997
00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:12,480
but those three types

998
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,240
and uh

999
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:16,079
throughout my life again which is pretty

1000
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:19,440
consistent that i never saw uh like a

1001
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:20,960
reptilian

1002
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:23,440
creature

1003
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,880
i did see

1004
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,560
um

1005
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,400
me and my little sister

1006
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:30,720
the little kids we saw

1007
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:32,480
running through the house

1008
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:35,280
blue men they were like made of light

1009
00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:37,200
but they look like men but they had no

1010
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,839
faces they were all blue and we chased

1011
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,359
them through the house

1012
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,200
we both saw them it wasn't we weren't

1013
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:45,040
dreaming

1014
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:50,870
wow that was weird because that was like

1015
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:52,400
an isolated

1016
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:55,440
event and i don't know why i just was

1017
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:57,280
like i took it in stride it was like

1018
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,400
exciting

1019
00:37:01,829 --> 00:37:00,079
they chased the blue man through the

1020
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:01,839
house i must have been like seven years

1021
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:02,960
old

1022
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:09,750
scared are there um can i ask you really

1023
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:11,920
quick can you uh my my daughter's in the

1024
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:14,079
background uh yeah crying can you can

1025
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:15,839
you hear crying

1026
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:18,000
you can't okay i just my wife is with

1027
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:19,599
her i just i feel bad like maybe i

1028
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:21,119
should go check on her real quick and i

1029
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:23,760
don't my co-host isn't here so

1030
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:25,040
do you mind hanging out one second i

1031
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:26,400
just want to make sure everything's okay

1032
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:27,520
do you mind hanging out for just one

1033
00:38:37,190 --> 00:37:28,320
second

1034
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,430
oh okay baby's fine wife is fine

1035
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:41,920
everything's good

1036
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:44,079
sorry about that

1037
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,520
can i

1038
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:48,079
go back a few steps about something you

1039
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:49,680
said earlier yeah

1040
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:51,359
because i i kind of wanted to respond to

1041
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:52,880
it when you

1042
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:55,119
said how if someone's going through

1043
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:56,000
something

1044
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,839
that can tie into the encounters and i

1045
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:01,520
have an experience

1046
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:03,760
and there'll be you know some relevancy

1047
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:05,920
there going on with what's going on in

1048
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:07,280
their life

1049
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,640
um

1050
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:10,800
there were times that i had

1051
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,079
experiences like that it wouldn't

1052
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:14,320
necessarily always have related to it

1053
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:15,920
that way

1054
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:18,800
myself although i do relate to

1055
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,320
um

1056
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:22,400
having a close relationship with the

1057
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:24,720
grayson when i was younger than having

1058
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:27,040
conversations with me on craft where

1059
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:28,720
they were aware

1060
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:31,599
that i was a sad boy that i was lonely i

1061
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:34,960
didn't have a lot of friends and um

1062
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,640
things would come up and they would say

1063
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:38,960
like why are you so sad

1064
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:41,359
um i remember one time they were in my

1065
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:42,560
room and

1066
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:44,800
it's almost like any tea i said can you

1067
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,119
take me with you and this

1068
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:49,680
tall gray had a shorter gray with him

1069
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:52,800
i knew was my age it was a

1070
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:55,280
child which i had never seen before

1071
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:58,720
and and he said you can't come with us

1072
00:40:01,670 --> 00:40:00,160
because

1073
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:01,680
you have a family here that loves you

1074
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,280
and they miss you

1075
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,520
and that made me feel sad because

1076
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:07,920
i loved my family but i was torn i also

1077
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:10,319
loved the grades i thought of them as my

1078
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,119
family too at that point and i feel that

1079
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:15,599
was an emotional manipulation as an

1080
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:18,160
adult looking back on it but i always

1081
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:20,000
had that kind of

1082
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,040
connection like an awareness that

1083
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:25,599
they knew what was going on in my life

1084
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,079
and they even healed me

1085
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:30,560
you can talk about that later but that i

1086
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:32,240
had an event as a seven-year-old where

1087
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:33,920
they said i was going to die of a

1088
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:36,880
muscular disease and they healed me and

1089
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:39,040
then after that they totally imparted

1090
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:40,880
all this knowledge on me they said we're

1091
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,760
going to be with your whole life anytime

1092
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:45,920
you need to talk to us all you have to

1093
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:48,079
do is think about us and we're right

1094
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:49,839
there we can hear you

1095
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:53,200
so i had that kind of close relationship

1096
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,599
as bizarre as that sounds and even going

1097
00:40:59,829 --> 00:40:57,680
back to my grandmother when she was

1098
00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:59,839
pregnant with my mother this goes back

1099
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:02,000
to the early part of last century

1100
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,680
she woke up in the middle of the night

1101
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:05,119
and i asked her about i said were you

1102
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:07,839
dreaming and she said no she said she

1103
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,480
saw her mother this is my grandmother

1104
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:12,160
saw her mother who would be my

1105
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:14,720
great-grandmother come to her in the

1106
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:16,880
middle of the night and put her hand on

1107
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:19,119
her stomach and she said the baby would

1108
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:20,480
be okay

1109
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:22,720
and that baby was my mother she was

1110
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:24,240
pregnant with

1111
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:25,200
and so

1112
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,319
i feel

1113
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:28,800
if that i don't know what that was if

1114
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:29,680
that

1115
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:30,720
was

1116
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,160
this um

1117
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:38,000
abduction experience

1118
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:39,440
they were

1119
00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:44,960
like they said it goes back in family so

1120
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:47,839
again this close relationship which it

1121
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,599
speaks to what you said

1122
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,680
you know about this theme it's almost

1123
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:53,760
spiritual in some ways

1124
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:54,640
yeah

1125
00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:55,680
i uh

1126
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:57,920
if you don't mind i kind of want to uh

1127
00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:00,560
step back for for a second when we were

1128
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:02,480
talking about

1129
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:05,040
the your first interaction with the gray

1130
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,480
or slightly like beige or blue uh and i

1131
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:10,000
love that detail that you you threw in

1132
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:11,520
like maybe it was it could have been the

1133
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:13,200
lights on the ship

1134
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,880
and that got me thinking okay so you

1135
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:16,800
were on a ship not a lot of people

1136
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:18,960
remember ships they just remember boom

1137
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:21,040
they're in their bed boom they're on a

1138
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:23,040
table or

1139
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:24,400
they're just missing time and they don't

1140
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,720
remember where they went but they're

1141
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:28,800
like back in their bed and maybe clothes

1142
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:31,760
are messed up my question is to you is

1143
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,880
um

1144
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:34,560
do you remember any details about the

1145
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:36,560
ship that you're on

1146
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:38,800
oh yeah i remember quite a bit i

1147
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:40,079
remember

1148
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:43,440
in a great number of different

1149
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:45,520
encounters of being on the ship

1150
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:46,640
i have

1151
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:48,319
it's going to sound unbelievable but

1152
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,480
i'll reference david jacobs who will

1153
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,319
back me up on this

1154
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:54,400
when you're lifelong objective it's not

1155
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:56,960
uncommon to have hundreds hundreds of

1156
00:43:02,230 --> 00:42:59,839
encounters over the decades so

1157
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:02,240
the difference with me is most most

1158
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:04,720
people don't remember as much and what's

1159
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:07,520
called an extraordinary abductee it's a

1160
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:09,920
it's a term it just means

1161
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:11,680
i have a good memory and i don't know

1162
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,000
why that i have extraordinary recall

1163
00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:16,880
it's all about hypnosis and i have had

1164
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:19,040
hypnosis which has helped to clarify

1165
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:20,400
some of the details

1166
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:21,920
but um

1167
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:23,520
that

1168
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,040
is partly just because i have a good

1169
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:27,520
memory but i kind of also think

1170
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:30,880
they wanted me to remember because they

1171
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:32,640
have the ability to

1172
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:34,800
not let you remember and like you hit

1173
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:36,319
like you touched on

1174
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:37,839
it seems like a lot of people don't

1175
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:40,319
remember

1176
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,040
but most of my experiences i don't it's

1177
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:47,040
just that i've had so many

1178
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,839
that

1179
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:50,160
even if you you know

1180
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:51,040
you know

1181
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:52,880
you sift out the ones where i do it's a

1182
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:54,720
high number but

1183
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:56,160
obviously

1184
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:57,520
i'm just sort of

1185
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:00,800
you want to know about like a specific i

1186
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:03,599
i mean the fact that you remember uh

1187
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,000
anything from being an infant in your

1188
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:09,040
crib is amazing

1189
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,880
yeah it is pretty freaky

1190
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:12,720
well the fact that you can hold all of

1191
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:14,160
this not well

1192
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:15,760
all of this

1193
00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:17,440
all this memory in your mind and still

1194
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:19,839
have a regular conversation as you are

1195
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:21,599
right now

1196
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:23,920
is is astonishing dude like the amount

1197
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:25,680
i'm just thinking about all the stuff

1198
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:27,920
you know about like

1199
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:30,160
your your memory like your ram rim

1200
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:32,960
storage or ram stores like on a computer

1201
00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:34,800
it's probably like a 32

1202
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:37,119
gigabyte where mine is like a like a a

1203
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:38,960
two megabyte you know like i have a

1204
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:41,040
tarot i have the memory of a snail i

1205
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:42,079
swear

1206
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,480
well i don't know they they tested me in

1207
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:47,040
grade school and they said that my

1208
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:49,280
memory was in the top ten

1209
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:50,560
and i'm sure it's higher than that

1210
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:52,480
because my father's a physician

1211
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:53,680
and so

1212
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:55,839
i do have a good memory i wouldn't say

1213
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:58,160
it's photographic but

1214
00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:00,000
with these encounters it's very

1215
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:02,079
emotional so it's like when i talk about

1216
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:04,319
it i can go back in there it's almost

1217
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,800
like self-hypnosis like i'm reliving it

1218
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,400
like i wish i could take you with me in

1219
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:10,240
a time machine and you could see what

1220
00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:11,920
i'm seeing in my mind because you'd be

1221
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:15,040
blown back like i remember shirts people

1222
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:17,760
wore like i remember such detail like i

1223
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:19,920
remember being 10 years old and having a

1224
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:21,839
conversation with someone and i remember

1225
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:24,240
what shirt they were you know to me like

1226
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,359
yeah like

1227
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:27,520
it's like a video playing in my mind i

1228
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:28,880
can see it

1229
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,000
okay i i have some i you just like

1230
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:34,319
sparked some ideas in my head dude

1231
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:35,520
i didn't mean to cut you off if there's

1232
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:38,160
anything you want to say no you do

1233
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:40,319
okay so dude

1234
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:42,480
do you think that maybe you're an alien

1235
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:44,880
hybrid or they chose you because you

1236
00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:46,880
were you had this ability

1237
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:50,319
or they gave you some gifts there's like

1238
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:51,599
do you fall have you thought about that

1239
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:52,880
like do you fall in line with any of

1240
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:53,920
those

1241
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:54,960
well

1242
00:45:59,190 --> 00:45:57,440
i have thought about it and i i don't

1243
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,200
know about the alien

1244
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:01,760
everything i mean i think that

1245
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,880
i do

1246
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:04,319
believe that

1247
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:06,240
we're all happy aliens yeah

1248
00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:07,760
we do have some

1249
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:09,520
you know that where they call the

1250
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:12,560
unknown dna or the unidentified

1251
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:14,560
you know there was a mix at some point i

1252
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:17,520
mean but i think that's what you said

1253
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,359
um about

1254
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:21,040
how did you put it um

1255
00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:22,400
that

1256
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:26,000
um

1257
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:28,560
i guess i was the chosen one within my

1258
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:31,119
family that it runs in my family and i

1259
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:32,240
was

1260
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:33,760
well i don't know what you could say the

1261
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:36,079
most on the autism spectrum

1262
00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,079
the most general nature or whatever but

1263
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,400
like bud hopkins told me that he said

1264
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:42,960
when he we met he interviewed me

1265
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:45,040
and he said

1266
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:47,440
a lot of advocacies met were artistic in

1267
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:49,280
general nature and he believes that they

1268
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:50,800
exploit that

1269
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:53,839
because we're more receptive we go into

1270
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:55,520
the experience

1271
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:57,200
easier to calm

1272
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:57,920
so

1273
00:47:02,150 --> 00:46:59,760
you know it's like uh

1274
00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:02,160
and i'm not like a gullible person i'm

1275
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:04,000
not like i'm not going to go off and

1276
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,880
join anything but like i know i'm not

1277
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:08,720
exactly answering a question i don't

1278
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:10,960
view myself as different i could view

1279
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:13,599
myself as a normal human being but i

1280
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:15,920
have an extraordinary relationship

1281
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:18,800
with something otherworldly which i

1282
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:20,079
always

1283
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,960
felt i did even though when i was a kid

1284
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:24,960
that memory my awareness was more

1285
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:28,079
periodic awareness where i'd have an

1286
00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:30,000
event and it would fade

1287
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:34,240
so i wouldn't remember 10 events in a

1288
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,079
row i'd only remember the last one or

1289
00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:39,119
two it faded and all of it came back to

1290
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:41,119
me later in my 30s like

1291
00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:44,559
later but i did as a little kid i have a

1292
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:47,280
feeling that in the evening those

1293
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:49,520
periods of amnesia i'd go through

1294
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:51,839
i always felt like luke skywalker and

1295
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:53,760
star wars like when that movie came out

1296
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:55,200
i was 14

1297
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,880
and that blew me away because like he

1298
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,240
would dream of

1299
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:00,400
going he'd look at the two the binary

1300
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:03,280
sunset and dream of going up and having

1301
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:06,160
adventures and i always felt i couldn't

1302
00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:08,880
explain the thing but i always felt like

1303
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:10,559
i was somehow

1304
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:12,960
in touch with something else from

1305
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:15,200
somewhere else like a spiritual

1306
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:17,680
connection to something larger and i was

1307
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:19,520
always innate in me and i couldn't

1308
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:24,630
right yeah so how do you how do you come

1309
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:26,720
out of of that realization not thinking

1310
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:28,319
like

1311
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:35,760
the other end

1312
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:41,270
like there's a lot of me like

1313
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:43,599
it's like

1314
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:45,200
there's a lot they tell that to a lot of

1315
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,839
people i just said use the word chosen

1316
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:49,359
as far as like

1317
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:51,760
there's not necessarily anything special

1318
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:52,960
about me

1319
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:55,200
if you compare me to the masses

1320
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:57,520
but within my family unit

1321
00:49:01,750 --> 00:48:59,119
i was the one

1322
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:01,760
that they really wanted to be part of

1323
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:03,599
the program the most

1324
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:05,920
and uh although

1325
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:07,839
and i'm kind of weird like

1326
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:09,520
i have uh

1327
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:12,640
like i am very spiritual not religious

1328
00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:14,000
but

1329
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:17,760
i was raised catholic i was an ultra boy

1330
00:49:22,549 --> 00:49:19,920
i actually had abductions out of

1331
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:22,559
churches while i was serving math and

1332
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:24,000
none was taken

1333
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:25,839
and so

1334
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:28,480
um i always had that kind of

1335
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:32,079
you know like i wouldn't call it like a

1336
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:38,630
because i would want i would wonder like

1337
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,200
can i think jesus in a past life and i

1338
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:43,440
go that's crazy like i don't believe

1339
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:44,480
that

1340
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,400
to bring it up because it's kind of an

1341
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:51,920
interesting thing

1342
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:54,640
i i i i respect you for bringing that up

1343
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:56,400
because like most people would be kind

1344
00:50:01,109 --> 00:49:58,559
of like oh not gonna say that but like

1345
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:01,119
yeah no i get it you gotta know that

1346
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,040
other people in your shoes would feel

1347
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:05,040
that way and

1348
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:06,720
they wouldn't

1349
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:09,599
end up on the side that you are uh of

1350
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:12,160
of humbleness right like i mean you're

1351
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:14,319
you're a pretty normal dude uh you

1352
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,040
didn't turn out so bad man um

1353
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:19,520
i know that had it been the wrong person

1354
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,520
with the wrong upbringing you know

1355
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:24,160
nature versus nurture i guess but

1356
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:25,119
um

1357
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:27,200
i don't know joel olsteen for me kind of

1358
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:28,800
rings a bell

1359
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:30,319
but like

1360
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:33,280
just being humble like hey yeah no i'm

1361
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:34,720
no more special than the other person

1362
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,440
but

1363
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:37,280
also all this crazy stuff has happened

1364
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:39,440
to me and uh

1365
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:41,760
i mean what do you yeah so i

1366
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:43,920
i i love it seems like it sounds to me

1367
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:45,599
like you're not focusing on that you're

1368
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:47,599
you're more focusing on

1369
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,960
on uh

1370
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:50,400
like the end

1371
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:51,920
i guess what are you

1372
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:53,680
what's the thing that that at the end of

1373
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,480
the day you you that brings you

1374
00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:58,720
joy or or positivity with your

1375
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:03,430
have you been given any messages or have

1376
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:04,559
you have you

1377
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:06,400
uh come to terms with anything that

1378
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:07,839
makes you feel like hey you know what

1379
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:09,839
all that was worth it like

1380
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:11,359
this is what we do now

1381
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:13,280
well even just before i answer that i'll

1382
00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:14,800
just say

1383
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:16,079
i

1384
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:49,599
and uh

1385
00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:52,800
yeah yeah as far as like messages i

1386
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:54,400
i never got

1387
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,480
like it reminds me of like that

1388
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:58,319
schoolyard landing ariel they got

1389
00:52:01,270 --> 00:52:00,319
messages about the environment saving

1390
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:01,280
the world

1391
00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:05,040
i i never got specific messages although

1392
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,160
i was on craft once i was like 12 years

1393
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:10,559
old and they showed me a screen almost

1394
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:12,880
like our modern flat screen

1395
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:14,480
but i don't remember if i was looking

1396
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:16,559
down on it i may have been looking down

1397
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:17,520
on it

1398
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:20,079
or it wasn't necessarily sitting upright

1399
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:21,599
like a tv but

1400
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,200
they showed me

1401
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:25,040
an explosion on earth that kind of

1402
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:27,040
looked like an asteroid hitting her

1403
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,559
i don't want to scare anybody because i

1404
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:30,559
have no idea what that was

1405
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:32,960
but they would just show me that

1406
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:35,119
and then i was like what does that mean

1407
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:37,280
like what am i supposed to do with that

1408
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:38,880
maybe they said more about it but i

1409
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:41,280
don't remember should that be what about

1410
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:44,160
what am i supposed to do dude what yeah

1411
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,160
like i don't look at nasa and even if i

1412
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:48,160
did we would need like anti-gravity

1413
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:50,400
technology to avert asteroids like

1414
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:52,880
they're working on that but it's like

1415
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:55,440
maybe they did in part step on me but if

1416
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,400
they did

1417
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:59,040
that's the one thing i don't have

1418
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:00,800
great clarity of recollection for us

1419
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:03,760
like a message although i would say they

1420
00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:07,280
affected me because i came away with

1421
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:09,040
like i'll have prescient dreams like i

1422
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:11,040
have a dream of the future and then this

1423
00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:12,400
will happen

1424
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:14,240
little things

1425
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:15,839
like i'll just give you an example there

1426
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:18,160
was a friend of mine

1427
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:19,599
in high school

1428
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:22,960
and and and i had this alien abduction

1429
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:25,760
and this boy

1430
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:28,240
was abducted he was a few years younger

1431
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:29,200
than me

1432
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:31,839
and uh he was like 13

1433
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:35,359
maybe 16 or 17. he was a friend of a

1434
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,079
friend of mine younger sisters but we

1435
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:40,240
hung out like he'd come under the house

1436
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:42,720
and they told they didn't say

1437
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:45,040
specifically that this boy was going to

1438
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:48,480
die but they said somebody

1439
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:51,359
that is a friend of your friend is going

1440
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:53,520
to die and i told my friend i said

1441
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:55,440
somebody you know is going to die within

1442
00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:58,319
a week i scared the crap out of him

1443
00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:01,200
and then this boy who i just told you

1444
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:02,720
who was taken

1445
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,079
a week earlier died in the car accident

1446
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:08,240
and and like i knew that was gonna

1447
00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:09,839
happen and then we talked about it

1448
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:12,000
afterwards and he was so like freaked

1449
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:13,680
out by like that he didn't want to talk

1450
00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:20,390
what do you do in those scenarios when

1451
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:21,440
because

1452
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:22,960
i know a lot of people that experience

1453
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:25,119
precognition like that and maybe it

1454
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:27,200
coincides with with contact maybe

1455
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:29,440
sometimes it doesn't

1456
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:31,920
but what do you do with that information

1457
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:33,599
like do you tell that person and now

1458
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:35,280
they're like

1459
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:37,200
think you're crazy or after the fact

1460
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:39,280
you're like oh no i totally knew that

1461
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:41,280
was gonna happen either way it's a

1462
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:43,760
lose-lose like what so again what you

1463
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:45,200
said adam earlier like what am i

1464
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:47,599
supposed to do with this

1465
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:49,520
yeah that's because they just dropped it

1466
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:52,160
on me and and i was i went to the

1467
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:54,799
funeral it was heartbreaking i actually

1468
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:56,799
met the boy who was like two years

1469
00:55:01,109 --> 00:54:58,400
younger than me and i met him at the

1470
00:55:04,789 --> 00:55:01,119
test but my friend was my friend's

1471
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:04,799
friend and he introduced me to him like

1472
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:07,200
three or four weeks before i die

1473
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,480
and uh

1474
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,319
and it was like

1475
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,000
i thought jeez

1476
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:14,559
if i had known specifically who it was

1477
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:16,880
that was gonna die i couldn't maybe warn

1478
00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:19,119
the parents like i said don't go on that

1479
00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:21,680
car trip they went on a weekend

1480
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,680
excursion in the jeep and it didn't have

1481
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:25,680
a top and it flipped and like four

1482
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:26,880
people died

1483
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:29,040
and like i didn't specifically know it

1484
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:31,599
was going to be that person i just knew

1485
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:34,240
it was i knew it was going to be someone

1486
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:36,720
he knew and then afterwards

1487
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:39,839
it matched up because like he said

1488
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:42,559
a week earlier i knew that goal was

1489
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:45,359
taken because we i had assisted in that

1490
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:47,680
we were at his house

1491
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,160
and i have a memory like i know who was

1492
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:52,480
taken i could look at a map and pick out

1493
00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:54,640
dozens and dozens of houses different

1494
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:56,720
places i live and go someone was taken

1495
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:58,559
from there so

1496
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:00,880
i mean that sounds weird but that's my

1497
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:03,200
experience yeah and yeah it was tough

1498
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:04,319
because

1499
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,440
that

1500
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,680
devastated me it devastated me i was

1501
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,160
like why are you involving me in this

1502
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,160
why would you tell me that like i don't

1503
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:14,160
want to know that like if you're telling

1504
00:56:17,349 --> 00:56:15,359
me that

1505
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:17,359
maybe to change it but how could i

1506
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,720
change it if i didn't know specifically

1507
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:22,160
like right

1508
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:24,559
i didn't want to be part of that

1509
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:27,760
but it was almost like they were just

1510
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:29,920
almost like for my benefit like it seems

1511
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,640
like a lot of what the visitors do

1512
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:34,319
is for

1513
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:36,319
not for our benefit but for their

1514
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:38,960
benefit and they involve us and i'm

1515
00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:40,960
involved and they let me

1516
00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:42,720
see their technology and they let me

1517
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,799
communicate with me and they let me see

1518
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,559
what they're capable of

1519
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:48,720
and because i'm involved and i guess

1520
00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:51,040
it's just my close proximity to it is

1521
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:53,839
that i can hear their thoughts

1522
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:55,599
and i see a bunch of stuff they didn't

1523
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:57,200
want me to see

1524
00:57:01,190 --> 00:57:00,079
and we got the cheat codes dude

1525
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:01,200
yeah

1526
00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:04,640
it's like that but i know i

1527
00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:07,280
on accident i was just making it yeah

1528
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:10,319
no i i was thinking i didn't actually

1529
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,400
answer your question before

1530
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:14,720
uh and uh if we're too far gone it's

1531
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:16,799
fine i've got like a thousand more it's

1532
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:18,960
because you know what it is i get

1533
00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:21,040
overwhelmed and i have a thousand things

1534
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:22,799
i want to say and i go oh i didn't

1535
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:24,400
answer your question but i just wanted

1536
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,000
to touch real quick on that you said

1537
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:28,319
like what's your takeaway like what's

1538
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:31,200
your take on the whole thing like

1539
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:32,799
because that's the key thing and i

1540
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:34,480
didn't really answer it

1541
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:37,359
um i don't think i did but yeah please

1542
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:40,480
yeah what is your like main at this

1543
00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:42,079
point in your life i mean it's probably

1544
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:44,160
changed but like as of right now what's

1545
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:45,760
your what's your perspective like

1546
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:48,480
takeaway yeah exactly it evolved it was

1547
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:50,799
a complete mystery and then i went

1548
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:58,150
you know and it's like and then i was

1549
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,720
like i went through a stage where it was

1550
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:02,640
beautiful and wonderful and

1551
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,839
it's like

1552
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,040
you know this

1553
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:07,359
is a blessing and

1554
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:09,280
it's it's great to know that we're not

1555
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:10,960
alone in the universe

1556
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:12,160
i just

1557
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:15,440
feel well currently

1558
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,880
i feel

1559
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:18,319
actually

1560
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:20,799
frustrated by it i don't like having had

1561
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:24,400
these words i would give it back like

1562
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:26,720
what was his name in the matrix um

1563
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:28,880
he wanted to just go back and not

1564
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,359
remember anything because i wonder what

1565
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:33,280
my life would have been like if i didn't

1566
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:34,880
have this awareness

1567
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:36,480
because this held me back it might have

1568
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:38,960
given me psd ptsd

1569
00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:41,200
and this is scary

1570
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:42,559
it's not

1571
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:46,400
that i feel is a blessing

1572
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:48,559
it can have that

1573
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,040
an awareness can expand your awarenesses

1574
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:53,040
but it's

1575
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:55,680
i feel an exploitation of humanity i

1576
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:57,599
think it's in advance

1577
00:59:02,230 --> 00:58:59,920
intelligence is exploiting us i think

1578
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:02,240
they're mining the planet for a genetic

1579
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:05,040
material plant plant material all kinds

1580
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:07,200
of material i don't know what to do with

1581
00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:08,000
this

1582
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:09,119
but

1583
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:11,599
it's not about us it's about them and

1584
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:13,680
they even told me that it's not

1585
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:16,079
like if i'm focused too much on myself

1586
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:17,920
they bring it back on themselves and go

1587
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:19,200
well we don't care about that it's not

1588
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,280
about what you want

1589
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:23,599
what we want you know

1590
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:26,319
and and it's annoying frankly it's it's

1591
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:29,040
like a love-hate relationship because

1592
00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:30,480
like you said like

1593
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:32,559
i'm channel nature right i'm open to

1594
00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:33,760
people uh

1595
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:35,760
and so i don't hate

1596
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:38,400
and i don't even hate these news but man

1597
00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:41,280
i feel like i was used

1598
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:43,119
so cypher is the name of the character

1599
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:45,280
you're speaking of in the

1600
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:46,400
matrix

1601
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:47,359
and uh

1602
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:50,000
he's got he's got he's got a dope uh

1603
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:52,400
lip blade as as dave scott would say um

1604
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:54,400
yeah a little a little flavor saver a

1605
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:56,640
little jazz button as well

1606
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:59,440
uh great actor but yeah that that uh

1607
01:00:04,069 --> 01:00:01,920
that archetype of hey i've been told the

1608
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:04,079
truth by the opposition by the by the

1609
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,480
enemy quote unquote enemy

1610
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:08,640
and they they gave him an out like hey

1611
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:10,799
sell out your boys and we'll let you

1612
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:12,160
live

1613
01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:15,119
in in this kingdom of of

1614
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:16,799
what they promised him is

1615
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:19,280
man there's so many tie-ins dude uh it's

1616
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:20,480
crazy like

1617
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:21,839
there's so many times that they promise

1618
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:24,000
him uh heaven on earth but it's really

1619
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:25,839
not earth he knows that but he's like

1620
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:27,760
don't let me that's why he says he

1621
01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:29,599
repeats this over and over i don't want

1622
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:33,280
to remember [\h__\h] like

1623
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:34,960
even that i know that this isn't real

1624
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:36,559
like he doesn't want to even remember

1625
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:38,480
that so um

1626
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:39,680
that is uh

1627
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:41,119
that's that's the character so that's

1628
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:43,119
kind of that archetype that you went

1629
01:00:47,829 --> 01:00:45,200
through which man i love that i've never

1630
01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:47,839
heard anybody say that before um that is

1631
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:49,599
super interesting my friend

1632
01:00:54,549 --> 01:00:51,760
well that movie

1633
01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:54,559
just blew me away because especially

1634
01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:56,480
there's different scenes in that like

1635
01:01:00,630 --> 01:00:59,440
when he goes in there and there's a

1636
01:01:01,910 --> 01:01:00,640
young person

1637
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:01,920
like a

1638
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:04,480
you know on the floor like in that this

1639
01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:07,040
holy person and they're like saying

1640
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:09,760
don't try to bend the spoon that's

1641
01:01:12,390 --> 01:01:10,960
impossible

1642
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:12,400
what does he say he said that's

1643
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:15,200
impossible yeah that's impossible to

1644
01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:17,040
realize that instead

1645
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:19,760
yeah realize that there is no spoon yeah

1646
01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:21,119
there's no spoon

1647
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:23,280
and it's not the spoon that bends it's

1648
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:24,880
you so

1649
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:26,400
there's that moment and there's a lot of

1650
01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:27,920
good little moments in that movie where

1651
01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:29,760
you go it's like

1652
01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:32,720
you think this is your whole world right

1653
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:34,559
and then a curtain is raised to go oh

1654
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:36,640
the world's much larger and different

1655
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:38,400
than i thought it was

1656
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:40,640
and you have insight into that and not

1657
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,640
everybody has that same insight because

1658
01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:44,480
we don't all know the same things we

1659
01:01:49,510 --> 01:01:46,559
don't all have the same experiences it's

1660
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:49,520
like the matrix is tiny the steak is

1661
01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:52,000
juicy and delicious and i finally

1662
01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:54,480
realized that ignorance's bliss took me

1663
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:56,480
back totally back i don't want to

1664
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:58,960
remember and i almost cried when i saw

1665
01:02:01,829 --> 01:01:59,760
it

1666
01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:01,839
because i was like you know getting

1667
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:02,799
older

1668
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:04,640
and i just wish

1669
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:06,960
that i could have a normal life you know

1670
01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:09,280
and not ha and it always kills me when

1671
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:11,599
people say i wish i could be abducted

1672
01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:14,480
and i'm like don't wish for this

1673
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:16,000
yeah

1674
01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:21,109
so when you when you when you see like

1675
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:23,359
shows like ours we're like i mean

1676
01:02:27,029 --> 01:02:25,200
we're not okay we're not

1677
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:27,039
we're having fun with the topic like i

1678
01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:28,799
told you behind you know backstage and

1679
01:02:32,710 --> 01:02:31,039
through email like joe and i we've seen

1680
01:02:34,789 --> 01:02:32,720
some stuff man we had some experience we

1681
01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:34,799
don't think we've been abducted we don't

1682
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:36,799
know for sure so we take it very

1683
01:02:40,549 --> 01:02:38,640
seriously like we have we have a good

1684
01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:40,559
time we laugh about farts and stuff like

1685
01:02:44,309 --> 01:02:41,760
yeah

1686
01:02:46,829 --> 01:02:44,319
but there is just this underlining

1687
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:46,839
darkness that sort of clouds this

1688
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:49,839
subject um and it can get really really

1689
01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:51,200
deep and that's why we kind of want to

1690
01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:53,440
keep things light and if you it's almost

1691
01:02:57,190 --> 01:02:55,839
like it's almost like opening up a novel

1692
01:02:59,270 --> 01:02:57,200
to like

1693
01:03:01,349 --> 01:02:59,280
the worst page

1694
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:01,359
like oh this this this

1695
01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:04,240
this book is about what like like a dog

1696
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:05,839
like builds a rocket ship and you

1697
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:07,440
[\h__\h] i don't know

1698
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:09,599
in the rocket ship it also created

1699
01:03:13,029 --> 01:03:10,960
peanut butter and like this like

1700
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:13,039
alternate timeline the book doesn't make

1701
01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:15,200
any sense that's kind of i mean

1702
01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:17,839
our show's weird but uh our approach to

1703
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:19,680
this whole thing is like

1704
01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:21,280
and it took you a little bit to kind of

1705
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:23,359
understand our format too

1706
01:03:26,950 --> 01:03:25,440
um which was interesting interesting to

1707
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:26,960
get that feedback from you

1708
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:28,000
it did

1709
01:03:32,470 --> 01:03:31,440
you know when i first saw it i was i was

1710
01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:32,480
like

1711
01:03:37,750 --> 01:03:34,799
you reminded me of cheech and chong and

1712
01:03:39,750 --> 01:03:37,760
like i love cheech and chunk like eet

1713
01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:39,760
the extra testicles and all that it was

1714
01:03:43,510 --> 01:03:40,640
great

1715
01:03:45,349 --> 01:03:43,520
but it's like yeah i wasn't sure how

1716
01:03:47,029 --> 01:03:45,359
serious you guys were but then i i went

1717
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:47,039
and listened to a lot of the interviews

1718
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:48,720
and you guys are like

1719
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:50,880
really intelligent and making insightful

1720
01:03:54,390 --> 01:03:52,480
comments and you've had your own

1721
01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:54,400
experiences and you really respect

1722
01:03:57,670 --> 01:03:56,160
experiencers

1723
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:57,680
or advocacies and

1724
01:04:02,870 --> 01:03:58,480
and

1725
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:02,880
that you know

1726
01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:05,440
sometimes the way someone presents

1727
01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:06,160
you

1728
01:04:17,589 --> 01:04:15,280
child in my mind practically like i'm

1729
01:04:19,990 --> 01:04:17,599
not a mature person not that you not

1730
01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:20,000
that you're mature but i mean oh yeah

1731
01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:21,760
i'm definitely immature

1732
01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:23,440
but that and that's fine to have a sense

1733
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:25,280
if you learn to have a useful spirit i

1734
01:04:30,069 --> 01:04:27,039
do too it's because you're not

1735
01:04:32,069 --> 01:04:30,079
ridiculing it you're not going

1736
01:04:34,069 --> 01:04:32,079
well you must be stupid because i have

1737
01:04:35,589 --> 01:04:34,079
people like that they'll be like well

1738
01:04:38,230 --> 01:04:35,599
you're not using critical thinking

1739
01:04:39,510 --> 01:04:38,240
therefore you can't you know rather than

1740
01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:39,520
try to

1741
01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:41,200
come up with an explanation for the

1742
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:42,960
actual data

1743
01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:45,760
what we're reporting they falsify what

1744
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:47,200
we're reporting and they're only

1745
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:49,440
explaining their falsified version of it

1746
01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:51,119
they're not explaining or making an

1747
01:04:54,789 --> 01:04:52,799
attempt to really delve into what we're

1748
01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:54,799
actually saying

1749
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:56,559
yeah um

1750
01:05:01,589 --> 01:04:59,520
dude i love that i love that

1751
01:05:03,029 --> 01:05:01,599
as you were saying i i uh you said i

1752
01:05:05,430 --> 01:05:03,039
don't i don't think you're immature and

1753
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:05,440
i said oh absolutely i i am immature and

1754
01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:06,880
i i realized that

1755
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:08,960
i i like rubbed my mustache and was like

1756
01:05:14,230 --> 01:05:10,960
literally smelling my fingers i'm

1757
01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:14,240
literally like stuck in in my early 20s

1758
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:15,359
uh but

1759
01:05:19,990 --> 01:05:17,200
this subject has been a part of my life

1760
01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:20,000
for a really long time um and yeah

1761
01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:22,640
although my our humor on the show is is

1762
01:05:27,430 --> 01:05:24,960
sometimes a little childish like

1763
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:27,440
what's more funny than farts dude like

1764
01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:34,630
we can still talk about serious stuff

1765
01:05:40,069 --> 01:05:38,240
too right i agree yeah yeah but uh i

1766
01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:40,079
appreciate that that sentiment and i

1767
01:05:44,230 --> 01:05:41,520
didn't mean that for that little thing

1768
01:05:46,069 --> 01:05:44,240
to be all about us i mean that uh

1769
01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:46,079
uh that perspective though i really

1770
01:05:50,309 --> 01:05:48,400
appreciate man on that feedback but uh

1771
01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:50,319
the the way that i kind of want to bring

1772
01:05:54,789 --> 01:05:52,720
this back in when we uh get back i kind

1773
01:05:56,950 --> 01:05:54,799
of want to take a five minute break if

1774
01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:56,960
you're down i've gotta hit the bathroom

1775
01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:58,559
and i know maybe you have to too if you

1776
01:06:03,109 --> 01:06:01,280
wanna grab a beer or refill your drink

1777
01:06:04,870 --> 01:06:03,119
people in the chat if you're watching us

1778
01:06:07,109 --> 01:06:04,880
live uh

1779
01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:07,119
time to party boys and girls it's time

1780
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:09,280
to party i'm still waiting still waiting

1781
01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:11,599
on joe still uh he's working late if you

1782
01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:13,920
guys are just joining us work uh joe did

1783
01:06:17,589 --> 01:06:16,880
not get replaced by cinnamon terry no uh

1784
01:06:19,990 --> 01:06:17,599
so

1785
01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:20,000
yeah where do we want to pick up when we

1786
01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:22,319
get back adam is there anything we want

1787
01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:24,480
to bring up because we've got we've got

1788
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:26,559
a bit of time left dude so the floor is

1789
01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:27,920
open man

1790
01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:30,000
yeah you said you have a thousand

1791
01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:30,960
questions

1792
01:06:35,510 --> 01:06:32,559
we should get back to

1793
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:35,520
some point where we started to talk

1794
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:36,480
about

1795
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:38,240
maybe what the interiors or some of the

1796
01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:40,000
crap looked like

1797
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:42,000
we didn't really get into that too much

1798
01:06:45,430 --> 01:06:43,520
i was going to

1799
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:45,440
and 100

1800
01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:47,039
and it's just

1801
01:06:50,950 --> 01:06:49,200
the can of worms though like you said

1802
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:50,960
like there's both aspects of it but your

1803
01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:53,680
style i just love it's okay

1804
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:56,000
it's cool you know it would be different

1805
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:57,760
if you guys were ridiculous but you're

1806
01:07:02,549 --> 01:07:00,480
not so but it's like you said yeah if

1807
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:02,559
you delve into something deeper can of

1808
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:04,000
worms you know

1809
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:06,640
and so that's why rue also has to be so

1810
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:08,319
careful about what he said

1811
01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:09,920
because

1812
01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:11,839
it can be scary either

1813
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:12,880
you know you want to have the

1814
01:07:16,549 --> 01:07:14,400
conversation you don't want to shut the

1815
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:16,559
conversation down

1816
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:18,480
yes i understand that

1817
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:20,400
i i love that you brought that up dude

1818
01:07:23,589 --> 01:07:22,319
because uh oh we've got so much i want

1819
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:23,599
to pick your brain about because the

1820
01:07:27,829 --> 01:07:26,240
louis zondo thing and and the reason why

1821
01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:27,839
he didn't just shut down the combo and

1822
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:29,680
he kept it rolling

1823
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:31,039
and

1824
01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:32,640
i mean i'm

1825
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:34,000
i'm picking what you're i'm picking up

1826
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:36,400
what you're throwing down but the

1827
01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:39,119
things that he did not answer

1828
01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:40,240
yeah

1829
01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:42,400
are you sure you didn't answer them

1830
01:07:45,990 --> 01:07:44,000
well maybe go back and listen to those

1831
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:46,000
interviews no it's interesting if you

1832
01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:49,680
look between the lines he signed an mba

1833
01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:51,119
and he has to be

1834
01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:52,559
careful about what he says but he's

1835
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:55,039
clever i don't have to be so careful

1836
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:56,480
about words because i didn't find them

1837
01:07:59,670 --> 01:07:57,440
nba

1838
01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:59,680
so that's what that's the good thing

1839
01:08:02,710 --> 01:08:01,680
about my position

1840
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:02,720
is that

1841
01:08:07,990 --> 01:08:05,200
it's like i can just go nothing say

1842
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:08,000
whatever i want you know but that's the

1843
01:08:13,270 --> 01:08:10,880
beauty of it and that's what why i

1844
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:13,280
should that's why i'm talking about this

1845
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:15,039
because i know certain other people

1846
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,880
aren't going

1847
01:08:21,510 --> 01:08:18,640
well when we get back dude i want to

1848
01:08:23,749 --> 01:08:21,520
take a five minute break man um i am so

1849
01:08:25,990 --> 01:08:23,759
enjoying our chat and uh it is so great

1850
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:26,000
to talk to you i mean we'll get into uh

1851
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:28,080
okay a little bit about what happened

1852
01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:30,880
what the interior of ufo crafts look

1853
01:08:34,630 --> 01:08:33,440
like i mean man just uh again thank you

1854
01:08:35,829 --> 01:08:34,640
so much for coming on the show i mean

1855
01:08:37,829 --> 01:08:35,839
you've been on on some of the grades

1856
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:37,839
you've chat with art bell like it's just

1857
01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:39,040
it's just awesome to have you here

1858
01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:41,359
tonight uh and hear a little bit more

1859
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:43,520
about your story and uh yeah when we get

1860
01:08:48,789 --> 01:08:44,880
back we'll talk we're gonna talk about

1861
01:08:50,229 --> 01:08:48,799
the inside of ufo crafts no i appreciate

1862
01:08:53,110 --> 01:08:50,239
uh being here i haven't done an

1863
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:53,120
interview in almost three years so

1864
01:08:57,910 --> 01:08:55,199
you know i'm back

1865
01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:57,920
you're back baby let's do this

1866
01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:59,279
all right man well i'll take you out and

1867
01:09:01,829 --> 01:09:00,799
put you in the greens uh the green room

1868
01:09:03,910 --> 01:09:01,839
i'm gonna i'm gonna put up a little

1869
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:03,920
video in five minutes so i'll be right

1870
01:10:01,830 --> 01:09:05,120
back brother

1871
01:10:01,840 --> 01:12:57,189
you

1872
01:13:02,070 --> 01:12:58,950
oh damn

1873
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:02,080
y'all hear that sweet crickle crackle

1874
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:07,120
that warm wood warming up your bones and

1875
01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:09,440
chill consists and chill sends chills up

1876
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:10,560
my spine

1877
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:12,110
every every time

1878
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:13,600
[Music]

1879
01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:16,560
that's what a fire does for me

1880
01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:18,400
and for you if you want

1881
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:20,640
it could be spooky

1882
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:22,800
what i remember about uh

1883
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:24,800
my first tv

1884
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:26,480
fire is uh

1885
01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:29,199
the first episode of

1886
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:30,080
uh

1887
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:33,120
are you afraid of the dark

1888
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:35,840
we need some sand

1889
01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:38,560
you know throw some sand on the uh

1890
01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:40,400
on the fire and it would make a like a

1891
01:13:46,709 --> 01:13:41,679
cool

1892
01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:46,719
all right monologue over we're coming

1893
01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:49,040
back ladies and gentlemen with adam

1894
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:51,440
ambrose tonight um

1895
01:13:56,550 --> 01:13:54,159
the biggest alien abduction story

1896
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:57,669
i think

1897
01:14:02,149 --> 01:13:58,880
the the

1898
01:14:03,990 --> 01:14:02,159
the story spans so many years from child

1899
01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:04,000
from from birth i mean the guy has the

1900
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:05,199
memory

1901
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:07,120
of uh i don't know there's probably a

1902
01:14:13,430 --> 01:14:09,920
name for it but he remembers memories

1903
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:13,440
from being in the crib seeing a a bright

1904
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:15,120
purple orb

1905
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:18,480
above his bed as a as a baby

1906
01:14:23,590 --> 01:14:21,120
and then as a six-year-old chatting with

1907
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,600
his brother about peter pan showing up

1908
01:14:27,189 --> 01:14:25,760
in the window and taking him to

1909
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:27,199
to another

1910
01:14:33,350 --> 01:14:31,600
place uh man his stories are are awesome

1911
01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:33,360
so far we're getting into it we're

1912
01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:35,280
coming back we left off

1913
01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:36,320
on

1914
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:40,400
of the inside

1915
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:44,080
of a ufo an alien ufo craft and i'm so

1916
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:46,800
excited to to have uh adam ambrose back

1917
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:50,000
in and uh mr cali my my

1918
01:14:55,750 --> 01:14:52,640
are my eyes glassy i don't know well

1919
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:55,760
uh welcome back adam ambrose ladies and

1920
01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:56,480
gentlemen

1921
01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:58,640
what's up dude

1922
01:15:01,110 --> 01:15:00,080
i'm back

1923
01:15:02,630 --> 01:15:01,120
you're back i should have probably

1924
01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:02,640
checked to see if you were back that

1925
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:05,040
could have gone very bad

1926
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:07,520
that was uh it's gonna give the cat

1927
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:15,590
you said you had to get your cat some

1928
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:16,880
water

1929
01:15:22,630 --> 01:15:21,120
to drink from the faucet so sometimes

1930
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:22,640
i'll run that but i really didn't want

1931
01:15:25,110 --> 01:15:24,000
it running in the background with the

1932
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:25,120
distraction

1933
01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:27,760
so he does have water just followed but

1934
01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:29,120
you can watch it

1935
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:30,800
have you seen those those videos of like

1936
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:33,040
cats that like paw the

1937
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:34,480
does your cat do that where like pause

1938
01:15:38,070 --> 01:15:35,600
it and kind of

1939
01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:38,080
gets the water in his mouth that way you

1940
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:40,560
know i did i have a couple packs and i

1941
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:43,280
have ones that did that

1942
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:45,360
yeah it's they're wet they're called and

1943
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:48,000
lift it up it's almost like almost cut

1944
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,000
this part like if you can

1945
01:15:55,350 --> 01:15:52,560
try to do it yeah it's funny they all

1946
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:55,360
have a different way of drinking

1947
01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:56,640
frosted

1948
01:16:01,990 --> 01:15:59,280
water i had a blonde cat who actually

1949
01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:02,000
passed away last summer thomas

1950
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:03,920
and uh he uh

1951
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:07,120
i'm 11 years old and uh

1952
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:08,000
he

1953
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:11,520
time

1954
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:13,760
drop it on the table and eat it off the

1955
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:15,920
table go back to the ball and let a

1956
01:16:18,709 --> 01:16:17,760
piece drop it on the table

1957
01:16:21,110 --> 01:16:18,719
like he

1958
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:21,120
i guess we felt territorial over food

1959
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:22,800
you wanted to make sure no one else

1960
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:26,790
there's something about there's

1961
01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:28,800
something about uh watching cats mess

1962
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:31,840
with like people food that's hilarious

1963
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:33,760
like if you get like ever seen like a

1964
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:35,040
kitten

1965
01:16:43,270 --> 01:16:41,920
full steak and it's just

1966
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:43,280
like

1967
01:16:48,630 --> 01:16:46,320
tigers

1968
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:48,640
they're cute they really are

1969
01:16:54,550 --> 01:16:51,120
ferocious they're meat eaters and

1970
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:54,560
they'll go after little bugs or whatever

1971
01:16:59,350 --> 01:16:57,600
and just uh yeah oh yeah but they're

1972
01:17:03,830 --> 01:16:59,360
they're domesticated but they still have

1973
01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:05,750
that yeah yeah i love that about that

1974
01:17:09,430 --> 01:17:07,600
because when i was a kid i saw boring

1975
01:17:11,669 --> 01:17:09,440
three in school they showed us that

1976
01:17:13,990 --> 01:17:11,679
movie and then when i went home i just

1977
01:17:16,550 --> 01:17:14,000
saw my cats totally differently to me

1978
01:17:18,550 --> 01:17:16,560
they were just miniature like tigers or

1979
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:18,560
whatever those were

1980
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:25,270
well i just hope that uh

1981
01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:26,480
that uh

1982
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:28,000
tiger king i don't know who the tiger

1983
01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:33,040
king is anymore but uh i don't know man

1984
01:17:36,070 --> 01:17:34,560
the tiger king have you have you seen

1985
01:17:38,149 --> 01:17:36,080
that stuff

1986
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:38,159
i mean they're all kind of guilty of a

1987
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:40,000
lot of [\h__\h] right like no one's innocent

1988
01:17:44,550 --> 01:17:42,480
in that whole story right

1989
01:17:47,110 --> 01:17:44,560
now i'm not

1990
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:47,120
i'm not familiar with that title what is

1991
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:48,960
it oh you don't know about tiger king oh

1992
01:17:52,630 --> 01:17:50,159
my gosh all right well i'll send you a

1993
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:52,640
link dude it's it's amazing okay we were

1994
01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:54,480
talking about cats and my brain went to

1995
01:18:00,550 --> 01:17:56,840
steak and like you know big cats and all

1996
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:00,560
that anyway i wanted to say a thank you

1997
01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:02,719
to simon wales for starting up i don't

1998
01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:04,000
know if you know about this adam but we

1999
01:18:10,070 --> 01:18:06,640
have this thing where uh for like if you

2000
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:10,080
to be a you could sign up to be a a as a

2001
01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:13,280
donation base on on our youtube channel

2002
01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:14,159
um

2003
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:16,480
as uh there's a couple different levels

2004
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:18,800
and one's called a space fart officer

2005
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:21,600
and it's one of our most prestigious

2006
01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:22,880
um

2007
01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:24,000
awards

2008
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:26,080
the first one is is doctor scientist i

2009
01:18:31,669 --> 01:18:28,960
believe uh space fart officer

2010
01:18:34,870 --> 01:18:31,679
is uh one of our our uh most prestigious

2011
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:34,880
and um i uh i congratulate you sir simon

2012
01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:37,920
wales and uh welcome aboard and your uh

2013
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:40,080
uniform will arrive in the mail shortly

2014
01:18:44,709 --> 01:18:42,640
i will be contacting you with many

2015
01:18:46,870 --> 01:18:44,719
many forms of

2016
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:46,880
large written

2017
01:18:51,510 --> 01:18:48,400
handwritten mail

2018
01:18:54,630 --> 01:18:51,520
in scroll form just expect tubes

2019
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:54,640
on your doorstep many tubes

2020
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:56,320
they're about five feet you're not gonna

2021
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:59,280
miss them five feet tall tubes

2022
01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:00,800
handwritten scrolls

2023
01:19:03,669 --> 01:19:02,080
you must read them aloud to your

2024
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:03,679
neighbors

2025
01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:05,280
uh as a welcome

2026
01:19:09,910 --> 01:19:08,159
to to being a space fart officer and

2027
01:19:12,229 --> 01:19:09,920
thank you for supporting the show the

2028
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:12,239
ufo garage podcast and i just want to

2029
01:19:17,030 --> 01:19:14,640
say again we're joe's not right here

2030
01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:17,040
right now with us tonight joe um you

2031
01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:19,360
know uh my better half

2032
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:22,400
uh other than my wife love you babe uh

2033
01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:26,000
is working late tonight so he is um he's

2034
01:19:29,110 --> 01:19:28,159
still alive i did call him he did not

2035
01:19:31,189 --> 01:19:29,120
answer

2036
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:31,199
so he might well let's just pray that

2037
01:19:35,350 --> 01:19:32,800
he's alive i haven't heard from him but

2038
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:35,360
he is working late tonight so

2039
01:19:41,030 --> 01:19:38,880
um everybody send love to joe

2040
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:41,040
and uh yeah let's get back to the show

2041
01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:42,960
adam dude

2042
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:46,159
we left off at uh a point where man i'm

2043
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:47,199
i'm so

2044
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:48,800
curious about this we talked to a lot of

2045
01:19:52,950 --> 01:19:51,600
people with experiences but with

2046
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:52,960
the memory

2047
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:55,760
abilities that you have i'm curious to

2048
01:19:58,550 --> 01:19:57,520
kind of spitball

2049
01:20:00,390 --> 01:19:58,560
uh

2050
01:20:02,070 --> 01:20:00,400
and

2051
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:02,080
i kind of just want you to take the

2052
01:20:05,990 --> 01:20:03,440
floor my friend

2053
01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:06,000
describe the first craft have there been

2054
01:20:10,629 --> 01:20:08,320
many or maybe we start with one

2055
01:20:11,050 --> 01:20:10,639
oh there's too many

2056
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:11,060
um

2057
01:20:15,910 --> 01:20:12,400
[Music]

2058
01:20:17,910 --> 01:20:15,920
see uh i was thinking that

2059
01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:17,920
you're saying just got the first one

2060
01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:20,560
like my earliest memory

2061
01:20:24,870 --> 01:20:22,880
hey and if you can't adam uh before you

2062
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:24,880
started i know you have a microphone is

2063
01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:25,760
there any way you can get that

2064
01:20:30,149 --> 01:20:27,440
microphone right in front of your your

2065
01:20:31,510 --> 01:20:30,159
mouth your mouth right like right there

2066
01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:31,520
just i just kind of want to see what

2067
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:33,040
happens

2068
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:39,669
um is this better

2069
01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:41,600
usually they tell them to move it away

2070
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:44,159
that's why i was fighting with the way

2071
01:20:49,030 --> 01:20:45,600
oh

2072
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:49,040
it's kind of the same

2073
01:20:51,990 --> 01:20:49,760
wait

2074
01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:52,000
let me take the headphone off a second

2075
01:21:01,669 --> 01:20:59,750
it's like i just had to bend this

2076
01:21:03,430 --> 01:21:01,679
wire sorry

2077
01:21:05,830 --> 01:21:03,440
i mean

2078
01:21:07,990 --> 01:21:05,840
is this better is this better

2079
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:08,000
actually yeah it does sound better

2080
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:09,520
you're

2081
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:11,840
i just pictured you like like clipping

2082
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:15,040
like clipping the red wire like

2083
01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:16,000
like

2084
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:18,480
i don't know no it's just you know the

2085
01:21:22,629 --> 01:21:20,080
mic being on this

2086
01:21:23,590 --> 01:21:22,639
water i had to i had sort of bent away

2087
01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:23,600
because

2088
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:25,760
when art bell interviewed me he was like

2089
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:26,639
now

2090
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:29,440
he gave me instructions put the mic

2091
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:31,679
between your

2092
01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:34,480
upper lip and your nose like he's like

2093
01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:36,080
telling me right where to put it i'm not

2094
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:37,920
even sure if that's like the right place

2095
01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:40,719
but not too close you know so it's like

2096
01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:42,719
hard to get it and then people go it's

2097
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:44,800
too close it's too far away can we try

2098
01:21:49,590 --> 01:21:46,960
that that sounds genius

2099
01:21:51,669 --> 01:21:49,600
yeah like you said don't have it

2100
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:51,679
right in front of your mouth but i guess

2101
01:21:54,470 --> 01:21:52,880
it says

2102
01:21:55,750 --> 01:21:54,480
maybe it looks like between your chin

2103
01:21:57,830 --> 01:21:55,760
and your lower

2104
01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:57,840
well wherever you had it when you just

2105
01:22:01,910 --> 01:22:00,639
talked sounded great yeah i just moved

2106
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:01,920
it closer

2107
01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:03,679
to my mouth

2108
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:04,800
how's this

2109
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:06,880
sound sound i think it sounds better

2110
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:14,950
so this is good i'll keep it here

2111
01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:17,600
maybe i'm talking quiet too because it's

2112
01:22:20,950 --> 01:22:19,199
getting late and i have neighbors

2113
01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:20,960
upstairs

2114
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:23,280
but man them neighbor

2115
01:22:26,470 --> 01:22:25,040
screw them neighbors dude

2116
01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:26,480
i'll go knock on the door dude i'll tell

2117
01:22:38,390 --> 01:22:35,590
little do they know we're changing the

2118
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:38,400
world downstairs dude you got a little

2119
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:40,239
no

2120
01:22:44,629 --> 01:22:43,120
yes that's the way i look at it

2121
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:44,639
but i

2122
01:22:49,669 --> 01:22:47,280
let's see you're asking me about

2123
01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:49,679
oh you wanted me to start off

2124
01:22:53,990 --> 01:22:52,560
my earliest memory of a craft

2125
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:54,000
yeah i want to know some like details

2126
01:22:56,709 --> 01:22:55,040
some visual

2127
01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:56,719
uh visual

2128
01:23:00,550 --> 01:22:57,840
i don't know why i have trouble with

2129
01:23:02,470 --> 01:23:00,560
that word visual uh

2130
01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:02,480
memories or maybe like

2131
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:04,800
uh feelings of

2132
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:07,120
like materials like what did you see in

2133
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:08,880
the craft

2134
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:09,760
okay

2135
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:10,960
well

2136
01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:11,920
there

2137
01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:14,159
are different size crafts

2138
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:16,000
when they would take me from the house

2139
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:18,000
they would land in my yard a lot and a

2140
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:20,639
lot of times would be small like pop

2141
01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:21,840
cans

2142
01:23:25,830 --> 01:23:24,159
and sometimes they'd be flat that almost

2143
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:25,840
look like lamborghinis like they were

2144
01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:28,560
low like softer shape

2145
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:30,400
but only maybe like

2146
01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:32,080
eight feet wide like real small

2147
01:23:37,270 --> 01:23:34,000
sometimes and then a lot of times you

2148
01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:37,280
see like these top ten type crafts and i

2149
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:39,600
saw my earliest memory of the craft was

2150
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:42,400
about five or six years old

2151
01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:43,679
and

2152
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:46,719
i went out in the middle of the night

2153
01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:48,239
and there was a craft in the backyard

2154
01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:49,760
and landed

2155
01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:51,760
and so they didn't go in and take me out

2156
01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:53,920
of my room you know they had me

2157
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:55,760
telepathically

2158
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:57,600
no they were there so i went out and met

2159
01:24:03,189 --> 01:24:00,239
them in the backyard and i went into

2160
01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:03,199
this small top 10 sidecraft

2161
01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:05,840
and they actually had

2162
01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:08,239
it put an implant into my nasal cavity

2163
01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:09,199
because

2164
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:11,280
the gray had a

2165
01:24:18,070 --> 01:24:13,840
tool and i remember what it looked like

2166
01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:18,080
i think it was like copper colored

2167
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:19,760
what's that other stuff like brass

2168
01:24:21,910 --> 01:24:20,960
colored

2169
01:24:26,070 --> 01:24:21,920
that

2170
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:26,080
metallic metallic looking it had a

2171
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:28,560
handle and then at the top

2172
01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:30,800
it was kind of circular to have like

2173
01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:33,280
some kind of spokes of fungus coming out

2174
01:24:37,510 --> 01:24:35,600
and a little grip apart it looked pretty

2175
01:24:39,669 --> 01:24:37,520
serious almost like a dental instrument

2176
01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:39,679
like it was going to be painful and

2177
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:41,600
stuck this thing out my nose

2178
01:24:46,709 --> 01:24:43,679
and i could feel and hear a crunching

2179
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:46,719
sound in my upper nasal cavity and at

2180
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:48,960
the time i was just like

2181
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:50,080
dude

2182
01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:51,440
that's not cool

2183
01:24:54,870 --> 01:24:53,040
like you're scaring me here what are you

2184
01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:54,880
doing man i thought you're my friend and

2185
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:56,400
now you're shoving something about my

2186
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:59,520
nose and i'm just a little kid right so

2187
01:25:02,149 --> 01:25:00,719
and then

2188
01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:02,159
a few years later i'd wake up

2189
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:03,920
occasionally i made

2190
01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:05,679
a blood stain on my pillow and i don't

2191
01:25:10,229 --> 01:25:07,520
typically have notices

2192
01:25:12,709 --> 01:25:10,239
and i didn't understand at the time

2193
01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:12,719
that that was then putting an implant in

2194
01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:14,159
my mouth but

2195
01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:17,440
i read about it later that

2196
01:25:21,910 --> 01:25:19,679
they will put an implant in the upper

2197
01:25:24,149 --> 01:25:21,920
nasal cavity sometimes

2198
01:25:26,629 --> 01:25:24,159
and you know so i just put it together

2199
01:25:28,470 --> 01:25:26,639
that he didn't say i'm putting an

2200
01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:28,480
implant and you know she didn't explain

2201
01:25:33,910 --> 01:25:30,480
them at the time you know he's only in

2202
01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:33,920
hindsight i figured it out because i had

2203
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:36,480
when i was in my 20s a metallic golden

2204
01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:39,440
boss geniusly fell out of my nose and i

2205
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:40,400
saw it

2206
01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:42,239
and that that's a whole other long story

2207
01:25:47,110 --> 01:25:44,639
i won't go into right now because i'm

2208
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:47,120
answering a question about the craft

2209
01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:48,000
but

2210
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:50,560
um this was just like the interior of

2211
01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:53,360
these small crafts were just basic it

2212
01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:55,840
was just basically empty

2213
01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:57,600
not much in there you know there wasn't

2214
01:26:01,510 --> 01:25:59,120
much room in there

2215
01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:01,520
so so your your description of of the

2216
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:02,880
craft like how did you know it was a

2217
01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:05,040
craft uh and how did you

2218
01:26:09,189 --> 01:26:06,800
like how did you discern whether or not

2219
01:26:12,629 --> 01:26:09,199
it was a room in a building or a room

2220
01:26:15,350 --> 01:26:13,510
well

2221
01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:15,360
i've never

2222
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:17,040
had

2223
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:19,520
i never concluded i was in a room

2224
01:26:24,550 --> 01:26:21,360
in a building for one thing

2225
01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:24,560
the rooms i was in never had

2226
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:26,800
corners like regular walls there were

2227
01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:28,960
squares they were always round and the

2228
01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:36,310
and uh like that small rooms

2229
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:37,600
basically and

2230
01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:40,800
i i remember seeing craft

2231
01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:43,760
on the outside seeing the shape of it

2232
01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:46,800
sometimes walking into it through a door

2233
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:48,400
other times it would be hovering up the

2234
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:50,480
air and i just floated up through the

2235
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:52,800
actual fall i've actually passed through

2236
01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:56,000
the solid hall to go up to the floor

2237
01:26:59,510 --> 01:26:57,679
so i would see it on the outside and

2238
01:27:03,430 --> 01:26:59,520
then i'd see it on the inside and i

2239
01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:06,229
there's a dome and then if you look

2240
01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:08,800
against the wall you can see where the

2241
01:27:13,590 --> 01:27:11,760
the ceiling came down and met the floor

2242
01:27:15,830 --> 01:27:13,600
like in an attic in the house the way

2243
01:27:17,669 --> 01:27:15,840
you can see it if it's an a-frame that

2244
01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:17,679
shields down and meets

2245
01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:20,239
you can see that on the interior

2246
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:21,600
okay okay

2247
01:27:25,590 --> 01:27:23,920
that that's super helpful so like

2248
01:27:27,590 --> 01:27:25,600
in the a frame of an attic as you're

2249
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:27,600
saying um

2250
01:27:31,030 --> 01:27:29,360
you can kind of see where that structure

2251
01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:31,040
meets the

2252
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:32,639
the floor

2253
01:27:37,430 --> 01:27:34,800
with the uh whatever support beams and

2254
01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:37,440
and was this a uh a right angle kind of

2255
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:40,159
thing are you saying it was curved

2256
01:27:45,669 --> 01:27:43,760
it was curved and it was uh

2257
01:27:48,149 --> 01:27:45,679
usually not dramatic

2258
01:27:50,229 --> 01:27:48,159
this is probably not like if i'm looking

2259
01:27:52,229 --> 01:27:50,239
at the wall of the room i'm in it's

2260
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:52,239
probably not usually

2261
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:54,480
the exterior wall it's probably there's

2262
01:27:58,870 --> 01:27:56,639
something beyond that because sometimes

2263
01:28:00,790 --> 01:27:58,880
it'd be like a hallway and i'd walk

2264
01:28:03,270 --> 01:28:00,800
around and then go in the room so it's

2265
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:03,280
like an interior room usually i think

2266
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:04,400
but

2267
01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:07,360
it's very sometimes i think it was just

2268
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:10,239
a craft and there's just one examination

2269
01:28:30,070 --> 01:28:27,430
um i'm being general but i would like to

2270
01:28:31,990 --> 01:28:30,080
go if we have time to go into

2271
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:32,000
at least a couple specific whole

2272
01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:34,159
encounters like from the beginning to

2273
01:28:37,270 --> 01:28:35,280
the end

2274
01:28:39,669 --> 01:28:37,280
and then like yeah

2275
01:28:41,669 --> 01:28:39,679
i've also got your images up i'd love

2276
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:41,679
some uh visual

2277
01:28:45,510 --> 01:28:44,159
do you i did bring up can you see uh

2278
01:28:47,350 --> 01:28:45,520
what i've got pulled up here because

2279
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:47,360
i've got the different types of craft

2280
01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:48,639
here

2281
01:28:53,110 --> 01:28:50,719
is that uh coinciding with with the

2282
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:53,120
story you're thinking about

2283
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:54,480
um

2284
01:28:59,510 --> 01:28:57,360
okay i see it oh let's see see the

2285
01:29:02,870 --> 01:28:59,520
pop-up tent and then

2286
01:29:04,550 --> 01:29:02,880
yeah that's the bottom right that's

2287
01:29:07,110 --> 01:29:04,560
a crew drawing but

2288
01:29:09,669 --> 01:29:07,120
this is a pop-up or

2289
01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:09,679
shape and it's got like lights on the

2290
01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:10,800
bottom

2291
01:29:13,830 --> 01:29:12,480
sometimes would be these circular lights

2292
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:13,840
on the bottom

2293
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:15,600
yeah and

2294
01:29:18,229 --> 01:29:17,120
then there's one in the center which is

2295
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:18,239
also

2296
01:29:24,470 --> 01:29:22,000
that dome shapes i saw a pyramid shape

2297
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:24,480
one was about eight or nine people

2298
01:29:28,629 --> 01:29:27,040
uh feet high once they landed on the

2299
01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:28,639
tennis court

2300
01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:30,400
and the next day there were these deep

2301
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:31,760
indentations

2302
01:29:35,430 --> 01:29:33,760
in a triangular pattern on the tennis

2303
01:29:37,590 --> 01:29:35,440
court and we were standing around

2304
01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:37,600
looking at it as a bunch of us i was

2305
01:29:42,070 --> 01:29:39,440
like 13 years old i used to play a lot

2306
01:29:43,990 --> 01:29:42,080
of tennis and we couldn't figure out

2307
01:29:45,830 --> 01:29:44,000
they thought it was vandalism but the

2308
01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:45,840
gates were boxing like

2309
01:29:47,830 --> 01:29:46,800
like

2310
01:29:49,430 --> 01:29:47,840
i don't know you couldn't figure out

2311
01:29:54,470 --> 01:29:49,440
what those indentations were i knew what

2312
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:56,790
indentations on the tennis court left by

2313
01:30:01,669 --> 01:29:59,760
a tr uh like a pyramid shaped craft

2314
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:01,679
yeah it was pyramid it was pure middle

2315
01:30:05,750 --> 01:30:03,920
it had three sides

2316
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:05,760
that was pointed at the top it wasn't

2317
01:30:11,110 --> 01:30:07,120
domed

2318
01:30:15,350 --> 01:30:13,430
and i've seen every shape a ball

2319
01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:15,360
tic tac shape

2320
01:30:44,470 --> 01:30:35,590
yeah please duke go into any specifics

2321
01:30:48,229 --> 01:30:46,550
i just love hearing details

2322
01:30:49,430 --> 01:30:48,239
yeah and i want to get more details

2323
01:30:51,189 --> 01:30:49,440
because

2324
01:30:53,110 --> 01:30:51,199
more conversational

2325
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:53,120
and we have time

2326
01:30:56,950 --> 01:30:55,600
you know so i just wanted to bring up

2327
01:30:59,270 --> 01:30:56,960
the uh

2328
01:31:02,870 --> 01:30:59,280
what i'm looking at now that's the house

2329
01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:02,880
i grew up in from eight seven

2330
01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:04,560
this is new jersey

2331
01:31:07,189 --> 01:31:05,760
there's actually a town called

2332
01:31:09,990 --> 01:31:07,199
flemington

2333
01:31:11,590 --> 01:31:10,000
and uh we used to live down the street

2334
01:31:12,709 --> 01:31:11,600
in a different house

2335
01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:12,719
where i was

2336
01:31:32,470 --> 01:31:29,910
so hundreds of people were taken from

2337
01:31:33,830 --> 01:31:32,480
that neighborhood in the period of 10

2338
01:31:36,790 --> 01:31:33,840
years

2339
01:31:38,229 --> 01:31:36,800
yeah it happened often that they would

2340
01:31:41,110 --> 01:31:38,239
pick me up

2341
01:31:43,430 --> 01:31:41,120
and then see how now this picture

2342
01:31:45,430 --> 01:31:43,440
i circled that was my favorite these two

2343
01:31:48,790 --> 01:31:45,440
windows and my bedroom between these two

2344
01:31:50,950 --> 01:31:48,800
windows this was a specific camera they

2345
01:31:52,390 --> 01:31:50,960
floated me out the window

2346
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:52,400
down to the ground

2347
01:31:56,870 --> 01:31:54,719
and then if you follow the arrows i

2348
01:31:58,870 --> 01:31:56,880
walked behind the house in which craft

2349
01:32:01,590 --> 01:31:58,880
landed in the backyard

2350
01:32:02,790 --> 01:32:01,600
and the next day well when i walked onto

2351
01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:02,800
that craft

2352
01:32:12,870 --> 01:32:03,600
i

2353
01:32:14,550 --> 01:32:12,880
though

2354
01:32:16,229 --> 01:32:14,560
and this in this particular memory it

2355
01:32:17,590 --> 01:32:16,239
was a top ten shape

2356
01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:17,600
and i looked up

2357
01:32:22,310 --> 01:32:20,080
and i saw two graves standing there and

2358
01:32:23,270 --> 01:32:22,320
they kept disappearing

2359
01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:23,280
and

2360
01:32:31,350 --> 01:32:29,679
could hear them talking in my mind i

2361
01:32:32,629 --> 01:32:31,360
could see them and i wasn't supposed to

2362
01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:32,639
be able to

2363
01:32:37,990 --> 01:32:36,239
and they were coming popping in and now

2364
01:32:40,550 --> 01:32:38,000
on the inside of the craft

2365
01:32:42,709 --> 01:32:40,560
so you you were kind of like

2366
01:32:44,629 --> 01:32:42,719
almost like in harry potter where he has

2367
01:32:46,390 --> 01:32:44,639
the uh the invisibility cloak and

2368
01:32:47,669 --> 01:32:46,400
there's like

2369
01:32:49,189 --> 01:32:47,679
the people talking about them and

2370
01:32:52,709 --> 01:32:49,199
they're like they know something's

2371
01:32:54,070 --> 01:32:52,719
happening but you're able to

2372
01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:54,080
here's what i always like to think about

2373
01:32:56,629 --> 01:32:54,880
like

2374
01:32:58,550 --> 01:32:56,639
from the other person the the entity's

2375
01:33:01,189 --> 01:32:58,560
perspective

2376
01:33:03,590 --> 01:33:01,199
how funny is it that maybe they couldn't

2377
01:33:06,149 --> 01:33:03,600
see you and you could see them and then

2378
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:06,159
it switched or maybe they have some

2379
01:33:09,669 --> 01:33:08,400
polarity on whatever frequency they're

2380
01:33:10,950 --> 01:33:09,679
emitting

2381
01:33:13,270 --> 01:33:10,960
and uh

2382
01:33:15,830 --> 01:33:13,280
they were surprised i always love any

2383
01:33:18,149 --> 01:33:15,840
kind of specific detail or story that

2384
01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:18,159
pertains to that where the entity

2385
01:33:23,189 --> 01:33:21,280
or the alien is surprised by something

2386
01:33:24,709 --> 01:33:23,199
so i mean that's kind of what i'm

2387
01:33:26,870 --> 01:33:24,719
getting at is that they were kind of

2388
01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:26,880
surprised that you could see them right

2389
01:33:31,350 --> 01:33:28,719
yeah and it that

2390
01:33:32,390 --> 01:33:31,360
wasn't totally unique but it was unique

2391
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:32,400
as far as

2392
01:33:37,270 --> 01:33:34,560
seeing them there's other times when i

2393
01:33:39,990 --> 01:33:37,280
noticed things when they were surprised

2394
01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:40,000
and but this time is a major thing

2395
01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:42,000
because when i walked on the craft i

2396
01:33:44,709 --> 01:33:43,920
didn't see them at first

2397
01:33:47,110 --> 01:33:44,719
but

2398
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:47,120
we had a mental communication i sensed

2399
01:33:50,950 --> 01:33:48,480
the presence

2400
01:33:52,390 --> 01:33:50,960
and then i saw them

2401
01:33:54,629 --> 01:33:52,400
and i noticed it was strange because

2402
01:33:56,550 --> 01:33:54,639
they were just standoffish just looking

2403
01:33:58,870 --> 01:33:56,560
at me and then i was just looking at

2404
01:34:00,229 --> 01:33:58,880
them and the other one's looking at me

2405
01:34:01,669 --> 01:34:00,239
you can see it

2406
01:34:03,750 --> 01:34:01,679
and the other one said no he can't like

2407
01:34:05,189 --> 01:34:03,760
he's not supposed to say yes because

2408
01:34:06,709 --> 01:34:05,199
he's staring at us

2409
01:34:08,390 --> 01:34:06,719
and i could see them and then they

2410
01:34:10,229 --> 01:34:08,400
disappeared and they reappeared

2411
01:34:11,750 --> 01:34:10,239
something was malfunctioning i wasn't

2412
01:34:13,750 --> 01:34:11,760
supposed to see them

2413
01:34:16,790 --> 01:34:13,760
but i was seeing them they were standing

2414
01:34:18,950 --> 01:34:16,800
there spying on me but i could see them

2415
01:34:21,590 --> 01:34:18,960
i don't know why but it was unique yeah

2416
01:34:23,510 --> 01:34:21,600
it was weird

2417
01:34:25,510 --> 01:34:23,520
and it gives me chills thinking about it

2418
01:34:27,669 --> 01:34:25,520
there's little things like that like i

2419
01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:27,679
never heard anyone else say that

2420
01:34:32,950 --> 01:34:29,840
like i didn't read that in the book and

2421
01:34:35,110 --> 01:34:32,960
my memories go back from the 60s and 70s

2422
01:34:38,390 --> 01:34:35,120
i didn't know anything about this wasn't

2423
01:34:40,149 --> 01:34:38,400
in book sales reduction except maybe

2424
01:34:41,189 --> 01:34:40,159
but that's completely different their

2425
01:34:45,669 --> 01:34:41,199
experience

2426
01:34:47,990 --> 01:34:45,679
i didn't get it from books right so

2427
01:34:49,669 --> 01:34:48,000
that then the next day in the morning

2428
01:34:51,510 --> 01:34:49,679
we're not in the yard and there's

2429
01:34:53,430 --> 01:34:51,520
indentations in the yard right with the

2430
01:34:55,669 --> 01:34:53,440
practice city there was it looked like

2431
01:34:56,950 --> 01:34:55,679
golf ball holes like on the golf course

2432
01:35:02,229 --> 01:34:56,960
there's deep

2433
01:35:06,229 --> 01:35:03,910
but there had been three legs that had

2434
01:35:08,229 --> 01:35:06,239
come out of it and i my father was

2435
01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:08,239
standing looking at it too and he

2436
01:35:11,669 --> 01:35:09,760
thought it was vandalism and i said no

2437
01:35:23,750 --> 01:35:11,679
that's where the craft landed and he

2438
01:35:33,189 --> 01:35:25,750
that was physical

2439
01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:34,950
random question was this

2440
01:35:39,350 --> 01:35:36,480
trampoline

2441
01:35:41,669 --> 01:35:39,360
uh there when this happened

2442
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:41,679
now this video has taken about four or

2443
01:35:47,189 --> 01:35:43,920
five years ago i was long gone

2444
01:35:48,709 --> 01:35:47,199
and that is not in my yard that

2445
01:35:51,270 --> 01:35:48,719
trampoline

2446
01:35:53,910 --> 01:35:51,280
it looks like a ship

2447
01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:53,920
i mean i'm just i i was just asking for

2448
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:55,679
for anybody that might be thinking like

2449
01:35:59,830 --> 01:35:58,080
oh maybe the maybe the trampoline flew

2450
01:36:02,149 --> 01:35:59,840
over because of the wind but this was

2451
01:36:03,109 --> 01:36:02,159
when you were a younger kid correct so

2452
01:36:04,790 --> 01:36:03,119
this was

2453
01:36:06,149 --> 01:36:04,800
way before that trampoline was there

2454
01:36:07,030 --> 01:36:06,159
right

2455
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:07,040
yeah

2456
01:36:13,350 --> 01:36:08,320
probably

2457
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:13,360
when i was there it was like 1970 1972

2458
01:36:18,950 --> 01:36:15,280
i was 10 or 12 like

2459
01:36:20,790 --> 01:36:18,960
i was 12 in 1974

2460
01:36:22,390 --> 01:36:20,800
i'm the same age as tom cruise right

2461
01:36:23,350 --> 01:36:22,400
he's actually older

2462
01:36:25,830 --> 01:36:23,360
but

2463
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:25,840
that this video

2464
01:36:30,390 --> 01:36:28,000
it was weird because i randomly found it

2465
01:36:32,470 --> 01:36:30,400
on youtube i think this video was made

2466
01:36:34,390 --> 01:36:32,480
like four or five years ago

2467
01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:34,400
and i'm watching it and the drone

2468
01:36:38,709 --> 01:36:36,480
hovered over the flemington right and

2469
01:36:41,590 --> 01:36:38,719
then i looked at the beginning again and

2470
01:36:44,070 --> 01:36:41,600
i realized the drone took off in the

2471
01:36:45,990 --> 01:36:44,080
house right next to the house that i

2472
01:36:48,149 --> 01:36:46,000
grew up in and i was like

2473
01:36:50,070 --> 01:36:48,159
that coincidence really blew my mind it

2474
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:50,080
was like i was meant to see this because

2475
01:36:54,550 --> 01:36:52,560
it's an aerial view of my damn house

2476
01:36:57,189 --> 01:36:54,560
like it could have been any house in

2477
01:36:58,950 --> 01:36:57,199
chapel hill it wasn't not chapel in in

2478
01:37:01,350 --> 01:36:58,960
uh

2479
01:37:03,830 --> 01:37:01,360
in flemington and it was

2480
01:37:05,430 --> 01:37:03,840
it was the house i grew up in looking at

2481
01:37:07,109 --> 01:37:05,440
it i mean that's the perspective the

2482
01:37:09,430 --> 01:37:07,119
aliens had right if they were hovering

2483
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:09,440
over my house yeah that's what they saw

2484
01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:11,920
dude it's like perfect the second is put

2485
01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:13,600
there for me

2486
01:37:18,229 --> 01:37:15,920
i uh i i can relate to you in in

2487
01:37:19,990 --> 01:37:18,239
somewhat of a way um my wife and i were

2488
01:37:22,149 --> 01:37:20,000
looking for a uh

2489
01:37:23,669 --> 01:37:22,159
to move to a quieter

2490
01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:23,679
uh part of

2491
01:37:28,790 --> 01:37:27,040
outer austin and uh we were actually

2492
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:28,800
i would have loved to buy my childhood

2493
01:37:33,350 --> 01:37:31,360
home childhood home and taylor

2494
01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:33,360
unfortunately was way too expensive but

2495
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:35,760
like just seeing it

2496
01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:38,560
on the internet at an aerial glance was

2497
01:37:46,149 --> 01:37:39,679
[\h__\h]

2498
01:37:50,629 --> 01:37:47,669
i don't know i don't know if that's just

2499
01:37:52,550 --> 01:37:50,639
like for everybody um but just

2500
01:37:53,910 --> 01:37:52,560
i mean you have a lot a lot a lot has

2501
01:37:55,990 --> 01:37:53,920
changed about the house but like just

2502
01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:56,000
seeing it from an aerial view is weird i

2503
01:38:00,870 --> 01:37:58,400
don't know it can be scary it's eerie

2504
01:38:03,910 --> 01:38:00,880
for me when i saw this like i went and i

2505
01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:03,920
took the web captures and then i had

2506
01:38:08,229 --> 01:38:05,600
time to really look at it i was like man

2507
01:38:09,830 --> 01:38:08,239
this is the year like evelyn like so

2508
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:09,840
many times they just put me in the

2509
01:38:15,430 --> 01:38:12,239
twilight zone because i think

2510
01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:15,440
i just like the stuff i experienced

2511
01:38:18,870 --> 01:38:16,800
i don't know what it sounds like to

2512
01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:18,880
other people but even to me like i

2513
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:20,639
realized it just sounds

2514
01:38:26,790 --> 01:38:23,520
just nuts but it happens like

2515
01:38:27,910 --> 01:38:26,800
it says my life has just been weird

2516
01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:27,920
i think it's

2517
01:38:33,189 --> 01:38:32,080
i think your story i mean you come from

2518
01:38:35,750 --> 01:38:33,199
a um

2519
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:35,760
a humble perspective if if you've been

2520
01:38:39,350 --> 01:38:38,159
listening this entire night with us guys

2521
01:38:42,550 --> 01:38:39,360
we're with

2522
01:38:45,109 --> 01:38:42,560
adam ambrose um i mean

2523
01:38:47,750 --> 01:38:45,119
back to you adam like your uh your

2524
01:38:49,750 --> 01:38:47,760
approach to this whole thing is is is is

2525
01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:49,760
really refreshing not that not that our

2526
01:38:53,350 --> 01:38:51,440
previous guests haven't been this way

2527
01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:53,360
like most of our the people that we

2528
01:38:57,669 --> 01:38:55,600
invite on the show are are humble in a

2529
01:38:59,109 --> 01:38:57,679
way where they're like dude i don't know

2530
01:39:01,590 --> 01:38:59,119
what happened but this is what i

2531
01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:01,600
remember um that's kind of

2532
01:39:05,830 --> 01:39:03,280
if there's there's anything specific

2533
01:39:08,149 --> 01:39:05,840
about our show um that's it it's like

2534
01:39:09,189 --> 01:39:08,159
hey we want to talk to real people

2535
01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:09,199
and

2536
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:10,000
uh

2537
01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:12,960
we're not interested in in selling books

2538
01:39:18,070 --> 01:39:15,280
i mean if you have a book dude love that

2539
01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:18,080
let's do it but if you're you know

2540
01:39:21,270 --> 01:39:19,040
not one

2541
01:39:22,870 --> 01:39:21,280
we can go into a rabbit hole about that

2542
01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:22,880
but um

2543
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:24,880
we always like to talk about like your

2544
01:39:29,590 --> 01:39:26,800
experience right and just i just want to

2545
01:39:31,669 --> 01:39:29,600
touch on this for a sec dude is is

2546
01:39:35,350 --> 01:39:31,679
you sharing your story you're sharing

2547
01:39:37,189 --> 01:39:35,360
your your uh emotions and just putting

2548
01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:37,199
yourself out there dude

2549
01:39:43,109 --> 01:39:40,320
i mean so that you started talking right

2550
01:39:45,510 --> 01:39:43,119
in 2015 is that correct

2551
01:39:47,510 --> 01:39:45,520
i did my first interview in march of

2552
01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:47,520
2015.

2553
01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:49,360
okay so

2554
01:39:54,229 --> 01:39:51,760
how has your perspective of your own

2555
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:54,239
experience changed as you've been

2556
01:40:00,470 --> 01:39:56,639
talking open openly about this on like

2557
01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:03,270
it's been cathartic it's been helpful

2558
01:40:06,629 --> 01:40:05,760
i mean i

2559
01:40:08,310 --> 01:40:06,639
had

2560
01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:08,320
all my members come back to me in a

2561
01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:09,520
flood

2562
01:40:15,109 --> 01:40:12,239
of memories after reading intruders

2563
01:40:16,870 --> 01:40:15,119
in 1993 i was 30 years old

2564
01:40:19,669 --> 01:40:16,880
and over the period of a year or two all

2565
01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:19,679
these memories came back whereas before

2566
01:40:24,149 --> 01:40:21,600
i wouldn't have periodic awareness where

2567
01:40:26,229 --> 01:40:24,159
it limited the words and so

2568
01:40:28,149 --> 01:40:26,239
then in the 90s

2569
01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:28,159
we didn't even have the internet where

2570
01:40:33,590 --> 01:40:30,400
who was i going to talk to right so i

2571
01:40:36,070 --> 01:40:33,600
was very isolated i tried to talk to

2572
01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:36,080
people co-workers and family members and

2573
01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:37,760
there's only the odd person here and

2574
01:40:41,109 --> 01:40:39,520
there who's interested and it was

2575
01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:41,119
fleeting and i never

2576
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:42,639
really got much of a chance to talk

2577
01:40:47,189 --> 01:40:45,040
about i was lonely with it i finally

2578
01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:47,199
just stopped talking about it because

2579
01:41:13,669 --> 01:40:48,000
i

2580
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:13,679
hear someone say

2581
01:41:17,350 --> 01:41:14,960
you know

2582
01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:17,360
maybe what you experienced isn't so

2583
01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:19,440
weird maybe it's normal

2584
01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:21,280
maybe a lot of people are experiencing

2585
01:41:25,109 --> 01:41:23,280
this they just don't talk about it now

2586
01:41:27,109 --> 01:41:25,119
on the internet everyone's talking about

2587
01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:27,119
it it's coming out and like you said i

2588
01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:28,560
don't have a book

2589
01:41:32,070 --> 01:41:30,719
i just wanted to talk about it learn

2590
01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:32,080
them all

2591
01:41:36,550 --> 01:41:33,840
interviewed me for two hours privately

2592
01:41:38,310 --> 01:41:36,560
on the phone in 2013 and she wanted to

2593
01:41:40,550 --> 01:41:38,320
do a podcast with me

2594
01:41:42,070 --> 01:41:40,560
and and uh

2595
01:41:44,229 --> 01:41:42,080
i backed out because i had did an

2596
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:44,239
interview so i was nervous so i thought

2597
01:41:49,510 --> 01:41:46,880
oh i'll be third place alone and i did

2598
01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:49,520
that and then every enemy that actually

2599
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:51,040
was offered to be

2600
01:41:55,990 --> 01:41:52,800
four months later on the internal art

2601
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:56,000
belt was a whirlwind and i was a big fan

2602
01:41:59,189 --> 01:41:57,360
of his so

2603
01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:59,199
it was like the whole thing

2604
01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:01,920
was exciting i felt like the beatles

2605
01:42:06,470 --> 01:42:03,520
coming to the united states and going on

2606
01:42:08,870 --> 01:42:06,480
the edge was a selfie show

2607
01:42:10,950 --> 01:42:08,880
it was exciting but then my feet were on

2608
01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:10,960
the ground also because like you say

2609
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:12,880
there's the dark side of it where when

2610
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:14,400
the microphones are turned off when

2611
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:16,400
you're alone when you go to bed just

2612
01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:17,199
like

2613
01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:19,280
you know it could be a letdown all that

2614
01:42:24,070 --> 01:42:21,600
you you just you get something out of

2615
01:42:26,229 --> 01:42:24,080
talking about it but like i have to live

2616
01:42:29,590 --> 01:42:26,239
with this my whole life it's still hard

2617
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:29,600
so i mean it's hard to reconcile it's

2618
01:42:32,870 --> 01:42:30,480
like

2619
01:42:35,189 --> 01:42:32,880
it's not a hard time reconciling

2620
01:42:37,830 --> 01:42:35,199
that feeling like i was used

2621
01:42:39,430 --> 01:42:37,840
but i i feel like i have

2622
01:42:41,350 --> 01:42:39,440
a purpose

2623
01:42:43,750 --> 01:42:41,360
to inform people

2624
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:43,760
and maybe encourage other people to talk

2625
01:42:47,510 --> 01:42:45,600
about if you don't want to talk about it

2626
01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:47,520
that's why some people don't want to

2627
01:42:51,430 --> 01:42:49,199
know maybe they shouldn't they can

2628
01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:51,440
disrupt your life it can be scary they

2629
01:42:55,510 --> 01:42:53,360
can break up relationships i've lost

2630
01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:55,520
friends over talking about it so it's a

2631
01:42:58,550 --> 01:42:57,119
personal thing

2632
01:43:01,109 --> 01:42:58,560
you know whether or not

2633
01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:01,119
after she chooses to talk about it

2634
01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:04,719
that's a personal decision

2635
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:05,840
man i

2636
01:43:11,830 --> 01:43:07,920
i love that so much

2637
01:43:15,109 --> 01:43:11,840
that is so uh that's so great to hear um

2638
01:43:18,709 --> 01:43:15,119
that your journey has been

2639
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:18,719
what sounds like a positive one

2640
01:43:21,590 --> 01:43:20,080
an important

2641
01:43:23,590 --> 01:43:21,600
important one i think a lot of people

2642
01:43:25,350 --> 01:43:23,600
are going through especially

2643
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:25,360
with the times now

2644
01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:27,280
where it's in the news this all the

2645
01:43:31,830 --> 01:43:28,639
stuff like everybody's been talking

2646
01:43:34,229 --> 01:43:31,840
about for freaking ever and now it's you

2647
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:34,239
know in the news it's

2648
01:43:37,189 --> 01:43:36,400
it's bittersweet um

2649
01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:37,199
for

2650
01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:40,719
with us and talk about it and like this

2651
01:43:45,189 --> 01:43:42,560
is what we do

2652
01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:45,199
to to alleviate our day-to-day stuff

2653
01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:46,800
like this is what this is what i just

2654
01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:48,960
love to do this is my passion but for

2655
01:43:52,709 --> 01:43:50,800
you it's different man

2656
01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:52,719
so i i just i can't even put myself in

2657
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:55,040
your shoes i can empathize um but no one

2658
01:43:57,350 --> 01:43:56,239
really can understand where you're

2659
01:43:59,750 --> 01:43:57,360
coming from

2660
01:44:01,910 --> 01:43:59,760
um so thank you for opening up about

2661
01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:01,920
that and explaining a little more like

2662
01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:03,440
i love what you said at the end of the

2663
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:06,239
day after those interviews

2664
01:44:10,310 --> 01:44:08,320
it's you man it's you and your thoughts

2665
01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:10,320
it's you and your memories it's like oh

2666
01:44:14,229 --> 01:44:12,800
you got this high and you enjoy talking

2667
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:14,239
and relating to other people and hearing

2668
01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:15,679
other people's stories like oh that's

2669
01:44:19,270 --> 01:44:17,679
that's what i saw oh i saw that too and

2670
01:44:21,189 --> 01:44:19,280
at the end of the night if you're just

2671
01:44:21,990 --> 01:44:21,199
on the internet if you're not at

2672
01:44:30,390 --> 01:44:22,000
a

2673
01:44:33,669 --> 01:44:30,400
you

2674
01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:33,679
something a lot of people need to hear

2675
01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:35,280
is that

2676
01:44:39,109 --> 01:44:36,800
yeah you're not alone that you had these

2677
01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:39,119
experiences but at the

2678
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:40,560
end of the night after after the

2679
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:43,199
internet and all the shows are over

2680
01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:44,880
you got to deal with that stuff so how

2681
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:46,480
do you

2682
01:44:49,990 --> 01:44:48,480
what's uh i mean

2683
01:44:51,270 --> 01:44:50,000
we've got we've got more time to talk

2684
01:44:53,270 --> 01:44:51,280
about this i mean i

2685
01:44:55,189 --> 01:44:53,280
we're gonna bring it back up here but

2686
01:44:57,430 --> 01:44:55,199
like if while we're talking about it

2687
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:57,440
adam is there anything any advice for

2688
01:45:01,109 --> 01:44:59,280
our listeners out there that may be

2689
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:01,119
going through something like this and

2690
01:45:04,950 --> 01:45:02,800
haven't really talked about it those

2691
01:45:06,149 --> 01:45:04,960
those those ups and downs those ebbs and

2692
01:45:07,109 --> 01:45:06,159
flows is there anything that you've

2693
01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:07,119
experienced

2694
01:45:11,270 --> 01:45:08,719
that you can give some advice to to

2695
01:45:12,229 --> 01:45:11,280
those out there

2696
01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:12,239
it

2697
01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:17,440
experiences are different mines

2698
01:45:21,910 --> 01:45:19,920
were like i always had early awareness

2699
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:21,920
since i was a little kid

2700
01:45:25,430 --> 01:45:24,400
i was a lot of times i'll hear how did

2701
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:25,440
you say

2702
01:45:30,550 --> 01:45:28,239
they had a fearful indoctrination to it

2703
01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:30,560
they had limited memories and then maybe

2704
01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:32,639
they saw an alien in their bedroom and

2705
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:35,600
scared the crap out of them and like you

2706
01:45:39,189 --> 01:45:36,880
know they almost have a nervous

2707
01:45:41,350 --> 01:45:39,199
breakdown sometimes so i don't know what

2708
01:45:42,950 --> 01:45:41,360
to say to those people because that

2709
01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:42,960
didn't happen to me

2710
01:45:47,430 --> 01:45:45,440
i i was always

2711
01:45:49,189 --> 01:45:47,440
deeper into it i had a deep relationship

2712
01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:49,199
with them they were my friends they

2713
01:45:52,629 --> 01:45:50,880
didn't for the most part scare me

2714
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:52,639
although they did terrorize me a few

2715
01:45:56,390 --> 01:45:55,280
times i would but i would say

2716
01:45:59,510 --> 01:45:56,400
it's tough

2717
01:46:00,790 --> 01:45:59,520
it's you have to first of all you have

2718
01:46:02,629 --> 01:46:00,800
to decide

2719
01:46:04,310 --> 01:46:02,639
what's important to you

2720
01:46:06,629 --> 01:46:04,320
um

2721
01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:06,639
how you feel about it if you really need

2722
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:07,760
to know

2723
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:09,360
maybe ultimately you're gonna have to

2724
01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:11,600
find someone to talk to a therapist and

2725
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:13,520
that researcher you might even consider

2726
01:46:17,830 --> 01:46:15,760
hypnosis if you really need to have an

2727
01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:17,840
answer but like my brother for the

2728
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:19,760
longest time said i don't want to know i

2729
01:46:24,149 --> 01:46:21,520
don't want to change my life i don't

2730
01:46:27,430 --> 01:46:24,159
want hypnosis and he's had like missing

2731
01:46:32,629 --> 01:46:30,149
but he doesn't delve into it like i do

2732
01:46:35,030 --> 01:46:32,639
like i did like i worked with hockey i

2733
01:46:36,629 --> 01:46:35,040
had like over five hypnosis sessions i

2734
01:46:39,990 --> 01:46:36,639
traveled up to his art studio in

2735
01:46:42,149 --> 01:46:40,000
manhattan and i worked with him and um i

2736
01:46:44,470 --> 01:46:42,159
was interviewed by john mack like i i

2737
01:46:47,030 --> 01:46:44,480
actively pursued it like i went nuts in

2738
01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:47,040
the 90s i talked to every researcher

2739
01:46:51,109 --> 01:46:48,480
it's not because i wanted to be in a

2740
01:46:53,830 --> 01:46:51,119
book i wanted the spotlight on me it's

2741
01:46:54,629 --> 01:46:53,840
because i had no outlet it was like i

2742
01:46:56,390 --> 01:46:54,639
was like

2743
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:56,400
this happened to me i wanted to take the

2744
01:47:00,229 --> 01:46:58,320
world by the ears and shake it up and

2745
01:47:02,229 --> 01:47:00,239
say wake up

2746
01:47:04,229 --> 01:47:02,239
like don't you know what's going on wake

2747
01:47:06,550 --> 01:47:04,239
up like i could get very emotional about

2748
01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:06,560
it you know and it's like richard

2749
01:47:11,669 --> 01:47:08,960
jackson's most encounters you're feeling

2750
01:47:13,189 --> 01:47:11,679
compelled and he's like saying i've

2751
01:47:15,189 --> 01:47:13,199
never been here before you think i

2752
01:47:17,350 --> 01:47:15,199
investigated to watch a concrete story

2753
01:47:20,629 --> 01:47:17,360
there is you know what the hell is going

2754
01:47:22,709 --> 01:47:20,639
on here he's just he wants answers yeah

2755
01:47:24,709 --> 01:47:22,719
and i think other people want answers

2756
01:47:26,709 --> 01:47:24,719
and how you seek those answers

2757
01:47:28,229 --> 01:47:26,719
you know it's personal but you should

2758
01:47:31,189 --> 01:47:28,239
get support like

2759
01:47:32,790 --> 01:47:31,199
it's scary and you should talk at least

2760
01:47:34,629 --> 01:47:32,800
try to talk to yourself but you don't

2761
01:47:36,790 --> 01:47:34,639
want to scare people because it can end

2762
01:47:38,390 --> 01:47:36,800
friendship so i think that's weird you

2763
01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:38,400
have to be careful about you talking

2764
01:47:43,510 --> 01:47:40,800
about it and maybe start with talking to

2765
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:43,520
a therapist that's what i did the first

2766
01:47:47,189 --> 01:47:45,280
people i went to if i wanted to

2767
01:47:49,350 --> 01:47:47,199
therapist even though i already knew

2768
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:49,360
what it was because before i went to a

2769
01:47:52,470 --> 01:47:51,280
researcher i wanted to be able to say

2770
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:52,480
well look

2771
01:47:56,070 --> 01:47:53,920
i have my feet on the ground i'm a

2772
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:56,080
disabled person

2773
01:48:00,149 --> 01:47:58,000
i'm not delusional i was realistic i

2774
01:48:02,390 --> 01:48:00,159
went to a therapist right i availed

2775
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:02,400
myself for therapy i listened to their

2776
01:48:06,709 --> 01:48:04,400
theories well this might be this this

2777
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:06,719
might be that and i was like no i know

2778
01:48:09,750 --> 01:48:08,320
what to do

2779
01:48:11,510 --> 01:48:09,760
you know so i approached it

2780
01:48:13,350 --> 01:48:11,520
pragmatically

2781
01:48:15,510 --> 01:48:13,360
they just go banging on the door of the

2782
01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:15,520
researcher you know and someone to

2783
01:48:19,990 --> 01:48:17,679
criticize me once and said don't just

2784
01:48:23,109 --> 01:48:20,000
call up a radio show i never did that

2785
01:48:25,350 --> 01:48:23,119
for 20 years i just did field research i

2786
01:48:27,830 --> 01:48:25,360
went to air shows i talked to pilots and

2787
01:48:29,990 --> 01:48:27,840
they told me their experiences and an

2788
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:30,000
old woman at a

2789
01:48:34,149 --> 01:48:30,960
meeting

2790
01:48:35,669 --> 01:48:34,159
me and she said i saw a bright ball of

2791
01:48:37,990 --> 01:48:35,679
light shimmering the size of a

2792
01:48:39,669 --> 01:48:38,000
basketball she said i just before i die

2793
01:48:42,310 --> 01:48:39,679
one i wish i could just know what that

2794
01:48:44,390 --> 01:48:42,320
was i saw and i wanted to tell her i

2795
01:48:45,830 --> 01:48:44,400
think he saw an alien and i didn't say

2796
01:48:46,709 --> 01:48:45,840
anything because i didn't want to scare

2797
01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:46,719
her

2798
01:48:49,270 --> 01:48:48,480
it's so it's hard to

2799
01:48:50,950 --> 01:48:49,280
talk

2800
01:48:53,830 --> 01:48:50,960
in real life it's easy to do an

2801
01:48:55,189 --> 01:48:53,840
interview right but it's hard to talk in

2802
01:48:56,790 --> 01:48:55,199
real life to people because you don't

2803
01:48:58,629 --> 01:48:56,800
want to scare them

2804
01:49:01,430 --> 01:48:58,639
well it's also like it's also like the

2805
01:49:02,629 --> 01:49:01,440
entrance and the exit in real life like

2806
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:02,639
on the internet you could just say

2807
01:49:06,310 --> 01:49:04,480
something in a chat room and like

2808
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:06,320
exit the window but in real life you've

2809
01:49:08,950 --> 01:49:07,600
got to be like

2810
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:08,960
oh

2811
01:49:12,830 --> 01:49:11,040
now i've interacted with you

2812
01:49:15,910 --> 01:49:12,840
and we're breathing the same

2813
01:49:18,229 --> 01:49:15,920
error i said something weird

2814
01:49:20,149 --> 01:49:18,239
i regret it now anyway

2815
01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:20,159
tell me about you there's so much more

2816
01:49:24,870 --> 01:49:22,080
to it when you're in person i i totally

2817
01:49:27,589 --> 01:49:24,880
i get that man like when we were uh joe

2818
01:49:28,950 --> 01:49:27,599
and i uh were at a uh we've been to two

2819
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:28,960
conferences

2820
01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:30,159
and uh

2821
01:49:34,310 --> 01:49:32,560
a whopping two and the people man that

2822
01:49:37,030 --> 01:49:34,320
the people that we were able to interact

2823
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:37,040
with in the stories were so amazing like

2824
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:38,719
it was just mind-blowing and we just

2825
01:49:43,750 --> 01:49:40,400
didn't have enough time to talk to

2826
01:49:45,990 --> 01:49:43,760
everybody like it's it's not that it's

2827
01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:46,000
just like we had a podcaster and we were

2828
01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:47,920
lit at the time literally just starting

2829
01:49:50,790 --> 01:49:49,760
just two dudes i'm just saying as a

2830
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:50,800
person

2831
01:49:55,109 --> 01:49:53,360
there were so many people that

2832
01:49:56,550 --> 01:49:55,119
that i wanted to talk to i just didn't

2833
01:49:57,910 --> 01:49:56,560
have enough time to hear their full

2834
01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:57,920
story like they would they would start

2835
01:50:01,669 --> 01:49:59,760
talking to somebody else or they were

2836
01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:01,679
like hey you know whatever so there's

2837
01:50:04,790 --> 01:50:04,000
all these social cues that you you have

2838
01:50:05,589 --> 01:50:04,800
to do

2839
01:50:09,669 --> 01:50:05,599
with

2840
01:50:11,270 --> 01:50:09,679
understand and relate to what you're

2841
01:50:13,030 --> 01:50:11,280
you're talking about like

2842
01:50:16,149 --> 01:50:13,040
it's hard to

2843
01:50:17,510 --> 01:50:16,159
to even say hi to somebody in in real

2844
01:50:19,830 --> 01:50:17,520
life even though

2845
01:50:23,350 --> 01:50:19,840
like dude if if we if we were to see

2846
01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:23,360
each other in real life we'd be like

2847
01:50:25,750 --> 01:50:24,400
yay

2848
01:50:27,750 --> 01:50:25,760
i know you

2849
01:50:30,550 --> 01:50:27,760
even though we've had a conversation for

2850
01:50:32,870 --> 01:50:30,560
two and a half hours or whatever

2851
01:50:33,990 --> 01:50:32,880
uh but yeah i i relate to that and i'm

2852
01:50:37,030 --> 01:50:34,000
sure there's there's other people out

2853
01:50:39,430 --> 01:50:37,040
there that um will too so

2854
01:50:41,189 --> 01:50:39,440
so so

2855
01:50:42,310 --> 01:50:41,199
so would you would you like recommend

2856
01:50:44,070 --> 01:50:42,320
anybody that's kind of going through

2857
01:50:46,070 --> 01:50:44,080
this kind of stuff to

2858
01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:46,080
to just talk about

2859
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:49,280
talk about this um in real life or or

2860
01:50:52,390 --> 01:50:51,119
maybe start online or

2861
01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:52,400
is that kind of

2862
01:50:58,629 --> 01:50:55,360
i'm i'm uh synthesizing

2863
01:51:01,510 --> 01:50:58,639
a little bit um

2864
01:51:04,390 --> 01:51:01,520
yeah it's hard for me to give advice i

2865
01:51:06,229 --> 01:51:04,400
i don't really know like

2866
01:51:07,589 --> 01:51:06,239
i didn't mean to cut you off did i cut

2867
01:51:09,910 --> 01:51:07,599
you off on that

2868
01:51:11,669 --> 01:51:09,920
you needed to i usually have joe to cut

2869
01:51:13,189 --> 01:51:11,679
me off when i start rambling so i

2870
01:51:14,550 --> 01:51:13,199
appreciate that

2871
01:51:16,550 --> 01:51:14,560
yeah i just

2872
01:51:18,629 --> 01:51:16,560
yeah i

2873
01:51:21,189 --> 01:51:18,639
i don't know you know it's hard to do

2874
01:51:23,189 --> 01:51:21,199
less because like i said it's different

2875
01:51:25,109 --> 01:51:23,199
like people experience i don't know what

2876
01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:25,119
someone else is going through like

2877
01:51:28,709 --> 01:51:26,800
they might be

2878
01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:28,719
going through something really hard like

2879
01:51:33,109 --> 01:51:30,800
when i was my first i've only been to a

2880
01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:33,119
few conferences it was just to meet the

2881
01:51:37,589 --> 01:51:35,440
researchers i had arranged the meeting

2882
01:51:40,470 --> 01:51:37,599
with bud hopkins so the first time he

2883
01:51:42,550 --> 01:51:40,480
advertised me was in pensacola florida

2884
01:51:45,189 --> 01:51:42,560
at a hotel and he introduced me to

2885
01:51:46,950 --> 01:51:45,199
london napolitano who is in the book

2886
01:51:49,430 --> 01:51:46,960
with london

2887
01:51:50,950 --> 01:51:49,440
so you said bud hopkins were a little

2888
01:51:52,790 --> 01:51:50,960
muffled on the microphone just wanted to

2889
01:51:54,310 --> 01:51:52,800
make sure everybody heard that yeah bob

2890
01:51:56,470 --> 01:51:54,320
hopkins

2891
01:51:58,550 --> 01:51:56,480
yeah i'll try to articulate i don't know

2892
01:51:59,990 --> 01:51:58,560
his articulate real world

2893
01:52:00,709 --> 01:52:00,000
but uh

2894
01:52:04,870 --> 01:52:00,719
he

2895
01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:04,880
sit down and talk because you have a lot

2896
01:52:09,350 --> 01:52:06,880
of comments and

2897
01:52:10,550 --> 01:52:09,360
there was a girl that came up to us in

2898
01:52:12,790 --> 01:52:10,560
the restaurant

2899
01:52:15,109 --> 01:52:12,800
and she was waitressing and she was all

2900
01:52:17,990 --> 01:52:15,119
nervous and she said i'm so sorry i just

2901
01:52:21,350 --> 01:52:18,000
wanted to introduce myself she said i uh

2902
01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:21,360
i've had experiences i was abducted and

2903
01:52:25,910 --> 01:52:23,119
i don't really work in this hotel i just

2904
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:25,920
got this job for the weekend so i could

2905
01:52:29,030 --> 01:52:27,760
attend the conference

2906
01:52:35,830 --> 01:52:29,040
and

2907
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:35,840
was just like i gave up my chance to

2908
01:52:39,430 --> 01:52:38,000
talk to them that i said youtube just

2909
01:52:41,830 --> 01:52:39,440
sit down and talk

2910
01:52:45,430 --> 01:52:41,840
and it just gave that away even though i

2911
01:52:46,470 --> 01:52:45,440
wanted to talk to her and it's like

2912
01:52:48,870 --> 01:52:46,480
um

2913
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:48,880
i just couldn't help it and i did that

2914
01:52:52,310 --> 01:52:51,360
because she needed to talk to her so i

2915
01:52:53,430 --> 01:52:52,320
don't know

2916
01:52:55,430 --> 01:52:53,440
i mean

2917
01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:55,440
if someone's distraught

2918
01:52:59,589 --> 01:52:57,199
i wouldn't go to the internet first

2919
01:53:01,750 --> 01:52:59,599
maybe family member or therapist

2920
01:53:03,990 --> 01:53:01,760
um if they're just curious and they're

2921
01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:04,000
not sure if they just had a weird dream

2922
01:53:08,229 --> 01:53:05,760
of sleep paralysis

2923
01:53:09,830 --> 01:53:08,239
researching on the internet and

2924
01:53:11,109 --> 01:53:09,840
what they have now is networks of

2925
01:53:13,669 --> 01:53:11,119
therapists who

2926
01:53:15,669 --> 01:53:13,679
like uh when hopkins was still around

2927
01:53:18,070 --> 01:53:15,679
you could contact

2928
01:53:18,790 --> 01:53:18,080
his people and they had a whole they

2929
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:18,800
would

2930
01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:20,639
go state by state and like they

2931
01:53:23,830 --> 01:53:22,400
recommended the therapist who had worked

2932
01:53:25,270 --> 01:53:23,840
with that

2933
01:53:27,910 --> 01:53:25,280
so the first therapist that was a

2934
01:53:29,990 --> 01:53:27,920
university guy he knew nothing about but

2935
01:53:31,270 --> 01:53:30,000
the second guy was actually someone who

2936
01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:31,280
had worked with

2937
01:53:36,629 --> 01:53:34,480
advocacy so it made it a little easier

2938
01:53:51,990 --> 01:53:36,639
because a standard therapist is going to

2939
01:53:55,510 --> 01:53:53,669
but he really irritated me that he would

2940
01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:55,520
go right to that like

2941
01:54:00,229 --> 01:53:57,840
you know and it's like

2942
01:54:02,950 --> 01:54:00,239
i mean i saw a language in my backyard

2943
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:02,960
but they don't get that that's fine

2944
01:54:06,470 --> 01:54:04,560
okay it's like i'm all over the board

2945
01:54:07,510 --> 01:54:06,480
here so that i don't know

2946
01:54:09,750 --> 01:54:07,520
and

2947
01:54:11,910 --> 01:54:09,760
it's frustrating for me because i don't

2948
01:54:14,149 --> 01:54:11,920
i don't know what to say to people maybe

2949
01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:14,159
i'm not the best advice giver

2950
01:54:17,270 --> 01:54:15,440
like

2951
01:54:19,030 --> 01:54:17,280
my experience is

2952
01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:19,040
pretty far out

2953
01:54:22,709 --> 01:54:21,440
like maybe most people don't come to it

2954
01:54:25,109 --> 01:54:22,719
the way i think there's so much

2955
01:54:25,990 --> 01:54:25,119
awareness

2956
01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:26,000
right

2957
01:54:30,629 --> 01:54:27,920
no i different

2958
01:54:33,030 --> 01:54:30,639
yeah there's a there's a whole

2959
01:54:34,470 --> 01:54:33,040
balance to that whole thing right um but

2960
01:54:37,189 --> 01:54:34,480
that's awesome to get your your

2961
01:54:38,790 --> 01:54:37,199
perspective on it it's it's also me here

2962
01:54:40,310 --> 01:54:38,800
from your perspective on that that

2963
01:54:42,390 --> 01:54:40,320
that's i think that's super important

2964
01:54:44,390 --> 01:54:42,400
that people need to hear um but hey dude

2965
01:54:46,870 --> 01:54:44,400
we got some questions from the chat if

2966
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:46,880
you don't mind uh we're still waiting on

2967
01:54:49,669 --> 01:54:47,840
joe i

2968
01:54:52,550 --> 01:54:49,679
i think he's i think he might be tied up

2969
01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:52,560
he just texted me and said that his uh

2970
01:54:55,510 --> 01:54:54,719
he just got done with his job

2971
01:54:57,510 --> 01:54:55,520
uh

2972
01:55:00,070 --> 01:54:57,520
and his

2973
01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:00,080
his phone is on one percent and he's

2974
01:55:03,830 --> 01:55:02,320
racing home so i don't know if we'll be

2975
01:55:06,149 --> 01:55:03,840
able to make it because we usually we

2976
01:55:07,990 --> 01:55:06,159
usually tie up around usually anything

2977
01:55:09,589 --> 01:55:08,000
around like 10 30

2978
01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:09,599
so um

2979
01:55:13,990 --> 01:55:11,679
uh we'll we'll see well hang on but we

2980
01:55:17,030 --> 01:55:14,000
do have some questions from the chat and

2981
01:55:19,189 --> 01:55:17,040
uh yeah big willy asks uh what has been

2982
01:55:26,870 --> 01:55:19,199
the biggest regret in dealing with these

2983
01:55:30,950 --> 01:55:28,870
i'm not sure

2984
01:55:32,629 --> 01:55:30,960
how he and it could be a positive thing

2985
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:32,639
like like didn't eat enough peanut

2986
01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:35,840
butter sandwiches i don't know

2987
01:55:44,950 --> 01:55:43,189
i like this peanut butter

2988
01:55:47,589 --> 01:55:44,960
he said i didn't i didn't eat enough

2989
01:55:49,669 --> 01:55:47,599
peanut butter i tried to

2990
01:55:51,830 --> 01:55:49,679
i tried to

2991
01:55:54,229 --> 01:55:51,840
regret i'm not sure how to interpret the

2992
01:55:56,470 --> 01:55:54,239
question like regret

2993
01:55:57,910 --> 01:55:56,480
in what sense um

2994
01:55:59,030 --> 01:55:57,920
that's how it really

2995
01:56:00,790 --> 01:55:59,040
taken like

2996
01:56:01,750 --> 01:56:00,800
that i didn't punch one in the face more

2997
01:56:03,350 --> 01:56:01,760
often

2998
01:56:04,790 --> 01:56:03,360
that's a great that's a great answer

2999
01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:04,800
yeah like did you ever feel like

3000
01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:06,960
punching one in the face i did and i

3001
01:56:10,550 --> 01:56:09,520
actually did punch one in the face once

3002
01:56:13,030 --> 01:56:10,560
okay

3003
01:56:15,350 --> 01:56:13,040
adam ambrose punches alien in in the

3004
01:56:17,750 --> 01:56:15,360
face and i

3005
01:56:19,910 --> 01:56:17,760
was going to go into that experience

3006
01:56:21,189 --> 01:56:19,920
about if we're going to have time but

3007
01:56:22,870 --> 01:56:21,199
that's the

3008
01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:22,880
one where i remember more about being on

3009
01:56:27,589 --> 01:56:24,880
the crafts and what it looked like and

3010
01:56:28,390 --> 01:56:27,599
you know a high school friend of mine

3011
01:56:31,109 --> 01:56:28,400
and

3012
01:56:32,629 --> 01:56:31,119
i was upset because they were

3013
01:56:34,550 --> 01:56:32,639
manhunted they were being rough with

3014
01:56:37,109 --> 01:56:34,560
them and was scared

3015
01:56:38,709 --> 01:56:37,119
they were kind of escorting me to leave

3016
01:56:40,709 --> 01:56:38,719
and what was behind me and i just kind

3017
01:56:42,870 --> 01:56:40,719
of reeled around

3018
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:42,880
and this is when i was young and like

3019
01:56:46,629 --> 01:56:44,800
actually fit and strong

3020
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:46,639
and i really

3021
01:56:50,790 --> 01:56:49,440
got them good and and and as i cracked

3022
01:56:53,589 --> 01:56:50,800
it looked like it was covered with a

3023
01:56:55,430 --> 01:56:53,599
plastic coating and cracked his heart

3024
01:56:57,910 --> 01:56:55,440
it was kind of stunned

3025
01:57:00,229 --> 01:56:57,920
and so i regret that i didn't punch more

3026
01:57:03,669 --> 01:57:00,239
than this

3027
01:57:04,629 --> 01:57:03,679
that's the truth and like i regret that

3028
01:57:20,149 --> 01:57:04,639
i

3029
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:20,159
advantage of that

3030
01:57:24,070 --> 01:57:21,360
and

3031
01:57:25,990 --> 01:57:24,080
maybe i could have asserted myself more

3032
01:57:28,390 --> 01:57:26,000
and like put up more of a fight i don't

3033
01:57:31,270 --> 01:57:28,400
know if it wouldn't be the difference

3034
01:57:34,790 --> 01:57:31,280
and i also regret just being so isolated

3035
01:57:35,669 --> 01:57:34,800
you're not talking about it more earlier

3036
01:57:38,550 --> 01:57:35,679
right

3037
01:57:40,390 --> 01:57:38,560
all great answers dude i mean it's it's

3038
01:57:42,390 --> 01:57:40,400
tough like where do you start and i i

3039
01:57:43,830 --> 01:57:42,400
feel like you aced that one because

3040
01:57:45,669 --> 01:57:43,840
first it's like

3041
01:57:47,830 --> 01:57:45,679
you start with this

3042
01:57:51,430 --> 01:57:47,840
this innate feeling of defense of

3043
01:57:53,270 --> 01:57:51,440
self-preservation fl flight or fight and

3044
01:57:55,109 --> 01:57:53,280
i think that's what we all when we wake

3045
01:57:58,390 --> 01:57:55,119
up from those dreams and we we're like

3046
01:57:59,189 --> 01:57:58,400
in a fight and we can't we're like

3047
01:58:00,870 --> 01:57:59,199
we

3048
01:58:02,310 --> 01:58:00,880
just can't throw that fist it's almost

3049
01:58:05,270 --> 01:58:02,320
like that feeling you wake up like

3050
01:58:06,629 --> 01:58:05,280
disappointed in yourself like dude

3051
01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:06,639
and in your case

3052
01:58:11,910 --> 01:58:09,199
you you you you mentioned that there was

3053
01:58:13,990 --> 01:58:11,920
another person being kind of

3054
01:58:15,750 --> 01:58:14,000
maybe abused as the wrong term but maybe

3055
01:58:17,910 --> 01:58:15,760
like just manhandled in a way that you

3056
01:58:20,229 --> 01:58:17,920
weren't totally okay with and you wanted

3057
01:58:21,510 --> 01:58:20,239
to stick up for that person and and you

3058
01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:21,520
didn't

3059
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:23,760
or you maybe you couldn't dude i mean

3060
01:58:27,189 --> 01:58:25,599
maybe that's something that

3061
01:58:28,550 --> 01:58:27,199
that you have to come to terms with even

3062
01:58:30,229 --> 01:58:28,560
if you

3063
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:30,239
could

3064
01:58:34,229 --> 01:58:32,560
they have such control over your

3065
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:34,239
your mental state that even if you

3066
01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:35,920
wanted to they

3067
01:58:39,189 --> 01:58:38,080
maybe that maybe that one punch i mean

3068
01:58:41,030 --> 01:58:39,199
they

3069
01:58:42,870 --> 01:58:41,040
i i i'm

3070
01:58:44,870 --> 01:58:42,880
imagining in my head you know you you

3071
01:58:47,270 --> 01:58:44,880
said you mentioned your you punched an

3072
01:58:50,149 --> 01:58:47,280
alien in the face which is badass when

3073
01:58:53,030 --> 01:58:50,159
you that needs to be on your t-shirt

3074
01:58:54,629 --> 01:58:53,040
uh yeah i i would imagine those aliens

3075
01:58:55,830 --> 01:58:54,639
were like oh he sucker punched me dude

3076
01:59:01,990 --> 01:58:55,840
it was

3077
01:59:06,550 --> 01:59:04,470
yeah well i had mentioned that

3078
01:59:08,229 --> 01:59:06,560
during the linda longhound livestream

3079
01:59:09,910 --> 01:59:08,239
she commented that

3080
01:59:11,189 --> 01:59:09,920
that happened

3081
01:59:12,790 --> 01:59:11,199
like

3082
01:59:15,189 --> 01:59:12,800
i was surprised

3083
01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:15,199
that i pulled that off but it yeah it

3084
01:59:19,189 --> 01:59:16,800
was because

3085
01:59:20,310 --> 01:59:19,199
that my friend was struggling

3086
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:20,320
earlier

3087
01:59:24,709 --> 01:59:22,560
and i was so pissed off about it

3088
01:59:26,870 --> 01:59:24,719
that toward the end it was kind of

3089
01:59:28,709 --> 01:59:26,880
retribution for that

3090
01:59:30,229 --> 01:59:28,719
uh and uh

3091
01:59:31,669 --> 01:59:30,239
he was like struggling on the table they

3092
01:59:32,950 --> 01:59:31,679
were like pinning them down and they

3093
01:59:35,750 --> 01:59:32,960
were scared

3094
01:59:38,629 --> 01:59:37,109
i think it was that they were

3095
01:59:41,510 --> 01:59:38,639
unsuspecting

3096
01:59:44,229 --> 01:59:41,520
that there were beings in front of me mr

3097
01:59:46,310 --> 01:59:44,239
were all around me and so we just i was

3098
01:59:49,910 --> 01:59:46,320
just about to leave the press so there

3099
01:59:51,510 --> 01:59:49,920
was like a moment like a lull like it i

3100
01:59:52,550 --> 01:59:51,520
think they just dropped their guard or

3101
01:59:55,510 --> 01:59:52,560
something

3102
01:59:57,350 --> 01:59:55,520
and and i just

3103
01:59:59,990 --> 01:59:57,360
it was the way i did it it just reeled

3104
02:00:02,149 --> 02:00:00,000
around and spun around on my heel

3105
02:00:04,310 --> 02:00:02,159
and it was so good like he was standing

3106
02:00:06,149 --> 02:00:04,320
right behind me and i don't think

3107
02:00:08,550 --> 02:00:06,159
could get out of the way sometimes i

3108
02:00:10,550 --> 02:00:08,560
wonder if some of this is orchestrated

3109
02:00:11,669 --> 02:00:10,560
and it's all theater and they wanted me

3110
02:00:14,229 --> 02:00:11,679
to hit him

3111
02:00:17,750 --> 02:00:14,239
just to study my reaction or some weird

3112
02:00:20,470 --> 02:00:17,760
thing but after i hit the alien

3113
02:00:21,350 --> 02:00:20,480
they swarmed the crap out of me

3114
02:00:23,589 --> 02:00:21,360
they

3115
02:00:24,629 --> 02:00:23,599
grabbed me by the arms and their little

3116
02:00:28,149 --> 02:00:24,639
hands

3117
02:00:30,149 --> 02:00:28,159
were like a vice grip but it was so

3118
02:00:31,589 --> 02:00:30,159
they were so strong it hurt

3119
02:00:34,310 --> 02:00:31,599
and uh

3120
02:00:37,030 --> 02:00:34,320
they literally just dragged me out like

3121
02:00:39,510 --> 02:00:37,040
they're so pissed off of me how little

3122
02:00:40,470 --> 02:00:39,520
you said little hands

3123
02:00:42,229 --> 02:00:40,480
uh

3124
02:00:44,629 --> 02:00:42,239
well i'm only five six and a half and

3125
02:00:45,669 --> 02:00:44,639
they were significantly smaller than me

3126
02:00:48,629 --> 02:00:45,679
so

3127
02:00:50,950 --> 02:00:48,639
they had to be under five feet i mean

3128
02:00:53,109 --> 02:00:50,960
under five feet and do you

3129
02:00:55,270 --> 02:00:53,119
do you remember like

3130
02:00:57,830 --> 02:00:55,280
do they have do you remember anything

3131
02:00:59,589 --> 02:00:57,840
like number of digits like some species

3132
02:01:00,790 --> 02:00:59,599
of grays have have

3133
02:01:02,310 --> 02:01:00,800
three

3134
02:01:03,750 --> 02:01:02,320
main fingers and a

3135
02:01:06,470 --> 02:01:03,760
opposable thumb

3136
02:01:08,470 --> 02:01:06,480
yeah uh they had

3137
02:01:10,149 --> 02:01:08,480
three long main fingers

3138
02:01:11,270 --> 02:01:10,159
and opposable

3139
02:01:13,109 --> 02:01:11,280
thumb

3140
02:01:15,109 --> 02:01:13,119
and they had little

3141
02:01:17,910 --> 02:01:15,119
circles on the pads and the fingers that

3142
02:01:19,109 --> 02:01:17,920
was like suction cups i saw a close-up

3143
02:01:20,629 --> 02:01:19,119
of their hand in the different

3144
02:01:22,470 --> 02:01:20,639
experience

3145
02:01:23,350 --> 02:01:22,480
so it has

3146
02:01:25,030 --> 02:01:23,360
that

3147
02:01:26,149 --> 02:01:25,040
again the hand

3148
02:01:28,470 --> 02:01:26,159
was like

3149
02:01:30,790 --> 02:01:28,480
when they would grab onto you

3150
02:01:33,109 --> 02:01:30,800
there was no getting loose and that's

3151
02:01:36,310 --> 02:01:33,119
why i was able to hit him because they

3152
02:01:37,910 --> 02:01:36,320
weren't making contact with me they were

3153
02:01:39,030 --> 02:01:37,920
trusting me

3154
02:01:41,030 --> 02:01:39,040
you see

3155
02:01:44,149 --> 02:01:41,040
say they were trusting me

3156
02:01:46,070 --> 02:01:44,159
and so i had a moment where okay well

3157
02:01:50,149 --> 02:01:46,080
screw you man i'm gonna pull a

3158
02:01:52,470 --> 02:01:50,159
mayweather on you and knock your ass out

3159
02:01:54,950 --> 02:01:52,480
i'll teach you to trust me man

3160
02:01:57,430 --> 02:01:54,960
there's no clause no no knockout pause

3161
02:01:58,709 --> 02:01:57,440
on the spaceship because i'm i'll drop

3162
02:02:01,830 --> 02:01:58,719
you

3163
02:02:05,510 --> 02:02:01,840
i'm talking about that

3164
02:02:06,790 --> 02:02:05,520
it's like i'm making jokes but it's

3165
02:02:08,310 --> 02:02:06,800
but yeah

3166
02:02:10,629 --> 02:02:08,320
that was real

3167
02:02:12,470 --> 02:02:10,639
i was pissed off they were pissed off

3168
02:02:14,709 --> 02:02:12,480
and they got the hell off that crash so

3169
02:02:16,310 --> 02:02:14,719
fast after that

3170
02:02:29,350 --> 02:02:16,320
and they were very

3171
02:02:34,310 --> 02:02:32,229
okay well dude oh my gosh i feel like we

3172
02:02:36,229 --> 02:02:34,320
could write a like a short story on that

3173
02:02:37,510 --> 02:02:36,239
that story because there's so much to it

3174
02:02:39,510 --> 02:02:37,520
i know we've got some more questions

3175
02:02:42,470 --> 02:02:39,520
dude if you don't mind

3176
02:02:43,750 --> 02:02:42,480
um the next one is

3177
02:02:44,830 --> 02:02:43,760
uh well

3178
02:02:47,510 --> 02:02:44,840
uh

3179
02:02:49,830 --> 02:02:47,520
eric asked about the the documentary

3180
02:02:51,589 --> 02:02:49,840
we'll i i message you here in the chat

3181
02:02:54,950 --> 02:02:51,599
we're working on that my friend let us

3182
02:02:56,870 --> 02:02:54,960
know um mr crowley

3183
02:02:59,990 --> 02:02:56,880
and dave this is from dave's dave scott

3184
02:03:01,589 --> 02:03:00,000
spaced out radio who is on next at 11 00

3185
02:03:04,629 --> 02:03:01,599
p.m cst

3186
02:03:07,350 --> 02:03:04,639
uh that stands for central standard time

3187
02:03:08,310 --> 02:03:07,360
uh we love dave scott around here um

3188
02:03:13,350 --> 02:03:08,320
uh

3189
02:03:15,030 --> 02:03:13,360
song but mr crowley asks a question for

3190
02:03:18,229 --> 02:03:15,040
adam do you feel

3191
02:03:22,470 --> 02:03:18,239
you are sensitive chosen or cursed with

3192
02:03:25,430 --> 02:03:23,830
sensitive

3193
02:03:27,109 --> 02:03:25,440
children

3194
02:03:29,510 --> 02:03:27,119
or cursed

3195
02:03:31,270 --> 02:03:29,520
i don't go right

3196
02:03:33,109 --> 02:03:31,280
cursed i mean you could spin the

3197
02:03:34,390 --> 02:03:33,119
photographical front feel that way

3198
02:03:37,669 --> 02:03:34,400
because

3199
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:37,679
uh but i don't view this

3200
02:03:42,550 --> 02:03:41,370
in a like a

3201
02:03:44,390 --> 02:03:42,560
[Music]

3202
02:03:45,270 --> 02:03:44,400
i view it as happening to a lot of

3203
02:03:50,229 --> 02:03:45,280
people

3204
02:03:50,239 --> 02:03:53,270
i view it as

3205
02:03:58,709 --> 02:03:54,830
that i was

3206
02:03:59,750 --> 02:03:58,719
exploited for my nature i have a

3207
02:04:02,470 --> 02:03:59,760
helpful

3208
02:04:04,629 --> 02:04:02,480
trusting nature and i think that

3209
02:04:07,510 --> 02:04:04,639
they exploited that in me

3210
02:04:10,069 --> 02:04:07,520
and they just i feel like i was deceived

3211
02:04:12,310 --> 02:04:10,079
and i feel like i didn't get anything

3212
02:04:13,750 --> 02:04:12,320
out of it they kind of make you feel

3213
02:04:14,629 --> 02:04:13,760
like okay

3214
02:04:15,910 --> 02:04:14,639
you know

3215
02:04:17,430 --> 02:04:15,920
we love you

3216
02:04:19,510 --> 02:04:17,440
you haven't got it you have a sense of

3217
02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:19,520
the benefit because expanding my

3218
02:04:23,109 --> 02:04:21,760
awareness for my awarenesses like at

3219
02:04:26,629 --> 02:04:23,119
least i know we're not alone in the

3220
02:04:29,750 --> 02:04:26,639
universe and you you you can get high

3221
02:04:30,790 --> 02:04:29,760
off that for a while man

3222
02:04:32,870 --> 02:04:30,800
you know

3223
02:04:34,550 --> 02:04:32,880
and it's an amazing thing to know we're

3224
02:04:40,470 --> 02:04:34,560
not alone in the universe but then when

3225
02:04:45,430 --> 02:04:43,189
i don't care how you dress that up you

3226
02:04:49,030 --> 02:04:45,440
forced me to go on that ship and use

3227
02:04:54,310 --> 02:04:49,040
this stuff to me that i'm not okay with

3228
02:04:57,750 --> 02:04:55,990
i think it does answer a lot of

3229
02:04:59,669 --> 02:04:57,760
questions and you hit home for me my

3230
02:05:02,629 --> 02:04:59,679
friend dude like

3231
02:05:05,109 --> 02:05:02,639
when you say you said uh that high of

3232
02:05:07,589 --> 02:05:05,119
realizing you're not the only living

3233
02:05:10,310 --> 02:05:07,599
thing on the universe

3234
02:05:13,990 --> 02:05:10,320
yeah bro

3235
02:05:15,910 --> 02:05:14,000
you know what that's like a five-year

3236
02:05:18,470 --> 02:05:15,920
high like it's like a building high

3237
02:05:20,709 --> 02:05:18,480
where it only gets more intense and like

3238
02:05:22,390 --> 02:05:20,719
you reach this pinnacle and i'm not

3239
02:05:24,709 --> 02:05:22,400
there yet thank god i'm still kind of

3240
02:05:27,189 --> 02:05:24,719
riding that thing um i mean i've always

3241
02:05:29,510 --> 02:05:27,199
been interested in the subject and

3242
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:29,520
who knows i mean how long this goes back

3243
02:05:34,470 --> 02:05:32,480
in my childhood but

3244
02:05:36,149 --> 02:05:34,480
the the realization that that we're not

3245
02:05:37,830 --> 02:05:36,159
alone in the universe has been such a

3246
02:05:40,149 --> 02:05:37,840
roller coaster for me there's like been

3247
02:05:42,629 --> 02:05:40,159
ups and downs so i don't feel like it's

3248
02:05:44,149 --> 02:05:42,639
it's a one-time thing i think it's

3249
02:05:45,990 --> 02:05:44,159
it's an ebb and flow thing where like

3250
02:05:47,430 --> 02:05:46,000
you go through low times you go through

3251
02:05:49,589 --> 02:05:47,440
high times

3252
02:05:51,669 --> 02:05:49,599
and sometimes it manifests

3253
02:05:53,430 --> 02:05:51,679
sometimes it manifests as spirituality

3254
02:05:55,830 --> 02:05:53,440
and like getting connected with yourself

3255
02:05:57,510 --> 02:05:55,840
and your body and connecting with the

3256
02:05:59,910 --> 02:05:57,520
earth and then and then all of a sudden

3257
02:06:02,390 --> 02:05:59,920
like a month later you're like i only

3258
02:06:04,629 --> 02:06:02,400
need evidence i need the freaking medals

3259
02:06:07,589 --> 02:06:04,639
in my hand i need to

3260
02:06:08,470 --> 02:06:07,599
i need a ting on a ting ting

3261
02:06:09,270 --> 02:06:08,480
you know

3262
02:06:12,310 --> 02:06:09,280
it's

3263
02:06:15,030 --> 02:06:12,320
know

3264
02:06:16,950 --> 02:06:15,040
uh this whole experience

3265
02:06:19,750 --> 02:06:16,960
but that's just me right then you're

3266
02:06:22,229 --> 02:06:19,760
right i understand yeah

3267
02:06:25,990 --> 02:06:22,239
so how do you do can you relate it all

3268
02:06:31,270 --> 02:06:27,830
being

3269
02:06:32,950 --> 02:06:31,280
an an experiencer that that can remember

3270
02:06:34,310 --> 02:06:32,960
very vivid details like is that

3271
02:06:36,709 --> 02:06:34,320
something that you're familiar with like

3272
02:06:37,669 --> 02:06:36,719
that down like that up and down

3273
02:06:40,629 --> 02:06:37,679
kind of thing

3274
02:06:42,870 --> 02:06:40,639
yeah i had uh like i said

3275
02:06:45,350 --> 02:06:42,880
prior to the age of 30 i had

3276
02:06:47,830 --> 02:06:45,360
more limited awareness although

3277
02:06:49,030 --> 02:06:47,840
that would happen had a lot of alerts

3278
02:06:51,669 --> 02:06:49,040
but then

3279
02:06:52,550 --> 02:06:51,679
that was phased and uh

3280
02:07:19,350 --> 02:06:52,560
i

3281
02:07:20,390 --> 02:07:19,360
you know

3282
02:07:21,189 --> 02:07:20,400
uh

3283
02:07:24,069 --> 02:07:21,199
my

3284
02:07:25,669 --> 02:07:24,079
it challenged me like i would have times

3285
02:07:26,390 --> 02:07:25,679
when i wasn't sure if it was real

3286
02:07:28,950 --> 02:07:26,400
because

3287
02:07:31,109 --> 02:07:28,960
i just i might have had a lot i did have

3288
02:07:32,950 --> 02:07:31,119
a lot of weaknesses people who saw

3289
02:07:35,030 --> 02:07:32,960
aliens around me at the time of the

3290
02:07:35,990 --> 02:07:35,040
event would come up to me afterwards and

3291
02:07:38,229 --> 02:07:36,000
say

3292
02:07:41,350 --> 02:07:38,239
uh i was playing tennis to be able to

3293
02:07:45,990 --> 02:07:43,990
and i had missed the time and i saw it

3294
02:07:47,750 --> 02:07:46,000
in my head i remember there's an alien

3295
02:07:49,510 --> 02:07:47,760
behind the backdrop

3296
02:07:52,149 --> 02:07:49,520
behind the tennis court and this kid

3297
02:07:55,669 --> 02:07:52,159
comes up to me after i come off the task

3298
02:07:57,189 --> 02:07:55,679
i said i went back there and i saw a

3299
02:07:58,629 --> 02:07:57,199
weird creature back there and you were

3300
02:08:00,790 --> 02:07:58,639
standing next to me

3301
02:08:03,350 --> 02:08:00,800
and he said are you an alien

3302
02:08:05,270 --> 02:08:03,360
and i said no i'm not an alien but it

3303
02:08:07,109 --> 02:08:05,280
freaked me out that he saw the damn

3304
02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:07,119
million that i saw

3305
02:08:11,750 --> 02:08:10,320
and so he sucked too so i had that

3306
02:08:14,470 --> 02:08:11,760
personal proof

3307
02:08:16,790 --> 02:08:14,480
so like i know unequivocally i could say

3308
02:08:17,990 --> 02:08:16,800
conclusively this is physically real and

3309
02:08:20,149 --> 02:08:18,000
i know it

3310
02:08:22,709 --> 02:08:20,159
so i'm in a different place like

3311
02:08:24,950 --> 02:08:22,719
i did go through years of not knowing it

3312
02:08:28,629 --> 02:08:24,960
but i had still so much memories of

3313
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:28,639
witnesses i had a guy from burnington he

3314
02:08:31,669 --> 02:08:30,880
was the father of my sister's best

3315
02:08:34,470 --> 02:08:31,679
friend

3316
02:08:37,109 --> 02:08:34,480
and his older sister was abducted and

3317
02:08:39,430 --> 02:08:37,119
the next day he took me aside and said

3318
02:08:41,990 --> 02:08:39,440
you're in danger

3319
02:08:44,069 --> 02:08:42,000
i saw you in my house last night with

3320
02:08:46,470 --> 02:08:44,079
some kind of strange creature what's

3321
02:08:49,430 --> 02:08:46,480
going on what was that

3322
02:08:50,790 --> 02:08:49,440
do you know what this is and he was like

3323
02:08:52,470 --> 02:08:50,800
scared

3324
02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:52,480
he was really

3325
02:08:57,430 --> 02:08:53,440
scared

3326
02:09:00,550 --> 02:08:57,440
and and then i said i just played it off

3327
02:09:03,189 --> 02:09:00,560
but i was like yeah i know what that is

3328
02:09:05,030 --> 02:09:03,199
uh yeah that's my friend or whatever or

3329
02:09:07,109 --> 02:09:05,040
something you know and he was like

3330
02:09:08,310 --> 02:09:07,119
freaked out by that like you know what

3331
02:09:09,830 --> 02:09:08,320
this is

3332
02:09:12,390 --> 02:09:09,840
you're still nonchalant about it and

3333
02:09:14,550 --> 02:09:12,400
just like he was just astonished and we

3334
02:09:15,669 --> 02:09:14,560
never talked about it again but when you

3335
02:09:17,109 --> 02:09:15,679
have people

3336
02:09:19,270 --> 02:09:17,119
seeing

3337
02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:19,280
your so-called dream

3338
02:09:23,750 --> 02:09:21,760
it's not a dream because dreams don't

3339
02:09:26,229 --> 02:09:23,760
have witnesses dreams don't need

3340
02:09:28,790 --> 02:09:26,239
learning to be backed up so i don't care

3341
02:09:44,390 --> 02:09:28,800
what anybody says

3342
02:09:48,790 --> 02:09:47,270
am i the only one saying nope

3343
02:09:50,470 --> 02:09:48,800
i don't think so i don't think there

3344
02:09:51,830 --> 02:09:50,480
would be millions of people talking

3345
02:09:54,550 --> 02:09:51,840
about if you're really

3346
02:09:56,950 --> 02:09:54,560
the only one that's yeah that's where we

3347
02:09:58,830 --> 02:09:56,960
are now right yeah it's the present day

3348
02:10:01,270 --> 02:09:58,840
which you met

3349
02:10:04,069 --> 02:10:01,280
uh on there all these revelations are

3350
02:10:06,790 --> 02:10:04,079
coming out it's like

3351
02:10:09,430 --> 02:10:06,800
it's i told yourself like

3352
02:10:11,510 --> 02:10:09,440
in a way you know it's like i knew that

3353
02:10:13,270 --> 02:10:11,520
i i knew all this when i was a little

3354
02:10:16,790 --> 02:10:13,280
kid in the 60s

3355
02:10:18,790 --> 02:10:16,800
i already knew this it's not news to me

3356
02:10:20,629 --> 02:10:18,800
like if you want to know what i already

3357
02:10:22,950 --> 02:10:20,639
knew that though

3358
02:10:25,510 --> 02:10:22,960
well that's what it's like i'm saying

3359
02:10:27,430 --> 02:10:25,520
if you want to know my perspective is

3360
02:10:29,669 --> 02:10:27,440
this is almost like just going to the

3361
02:10:31,350 --> 02:10:29,679
grocery store to get aids

3362
02:10:33,910 --> 02:10:31,360
it's like okay

3363
02:10:34,870 --> 02:10:33,920
here's the guys again here we go again

3364
02:10:36,709 --> 02:10:34,880
yes

3365
02:10:38,390 --> 02:10:36,719
i love that

3366
02:10:42,069 --> 02:10:38,400
well speaking of eggs

3367
02:10:44,149 --> 02:10:42,079
uh the next question is from randy uh

3368
02:10:48,470 --> 02:10:44,159
question is do you think the aliens are

3369
02:10:51,669 --> 02:10:49,830
i used to

3370
02:10:54,950 --> 02:10:51,679
think that they were

3371
02:10:58,950 --> 02:10:56,709
uh in recent years have been here and

3372
02:11:01,669 --> 02:10:58,960
researchers talk about having with the

3373
02:11:04,550 --> 02:11:01,679
androids and and i'm not sure

3374
02:11:05,430 --> 02:11:04,560
but i i think the idea

3375
02:11:06,390 --> 02:11:05,440
that

3376
02:11:07,350 --> 02:11:06,400
they

3377
02:11:10,149 --> 02:11:07,360
might

3378
02:11:12,629 --> 02:11:10,159
tend to send an artificial intelligence

3379
02:11:14,870 --> 02:11:12,639
and androids interact with us rather

3380
02:11:17,189 --> 02:11:14,880
than the primary

3381
02:11:19,589 --> 02:11:17,199
life alien intelligence showing up

3382
02:11:22,310 --> 02:11:19,599
itself kind of makes sense to me

3383
02:11:24,470 --> 02:11:22,320
i kind of a leaning toward we may not be

3384
02:11:26,229 --> 02:11:24,480
actually interacting with

3385
02:11:29,270 --> 02:11:26,239
the elements but

3386
02:11:31,910 --> 02:11:29,280
androids that they was created

3387
02:11:34,390 --> 02:11:31,920
you know to interact with us

3388
02:11:35,910 --> 02:11:34,400
uh i kind of recall

3389
02:11:39,430 --> 02:11:35,920
but i don't know

3390
02:11:42,229 --> 02:11:39,440
like how would i like i don't know

3391
02:11:44,870 --> 02:11:42,239
right so i don't

3392
02:11:48,069 --> 02:11:44,880
i don't know it could be a mix

3393
02:11:49,910 --> 02:11:48,079
i wonder if maybe some of the grays the

3394
02:12:00,870 --> 02:11:49,920
taller ones the doctors because there

3395
02:12:05,270 --> 02:12:03,270
he was more intelligent more informed

3396
02:12:06,870 --> 02:12:05,280
and he would talk to me the other ones

3397
02:12:08,950 --> 02:12:06,880
will just like be like

3398
02:12:10,870 --> 02:12:08,960
hey how you doing okay

3399
02:12:12,709 --> 02:12:10,880
hey how are you doing what should we do

3400
02:12:14,069 --> 02:12:12,719
what time is lunch over here what kind

3401
02:12:15,910 --> 02:12:14,079
of sandwich you got

3402
02:12:18,470 --> 02:12:15,920
yeah it looks like uh what do you want

3403
02:12:24,790 --> 02:12:18,480
mayo mustard no

3404
02:12:30,629 --> 02:12:28,870
yeah so the the was okay you mentioned

3405
02:12:34,229 --> 02:12:30,639
started i got all excited about

3406
02:12:36,149 --> 02:12:34,239
sandwiches uh love sandwiches uh the

3407
02:12:37,910 --> 02:12:36,159
taller being is that the mantis type

3408
02:12:39,189 --> 02:12:37,920
creature or

3409
02:12:41,030 --> 02:12:39,199
i feel like that's racist when i say

3410
02:12:43,750 --> 02:12:41,040
that creature like was it the mantis

3411
02:12:46,310 --> 02:12:43,760
type being that uh that had

3412
02:12:48,149 --> 02:12:46,320
the the coat on it you said insignia

3413
02:12:49,910 --> 02:12:48,159
like does that mean that there's like

3414
02:12:51,510 --> 02:12:49,920
branding going on in the area world is

3415
02:12:53,270 --> 02:12:51,520
like there is there a job for me as a

3416
02:12:56,870 --> 02:12:53,280
graphic designer in the alien world

3417
02:12:58,709 --> 02:12:56,880
because that's dope dude

3418
02:13:01,430 --> 02:12:58,719
yeah it was a

3419
02:13:04,229 --> 02:13:01,440
it was a circle and i don't remember

3420
02:13:05,750 --> 02:13:04,239
exactly but i tried to draw it once and

3421
02:13:08,550 --> 02:13:05,760
i drew like

3422
02:13:11,189 --> 02:13:08,560
just what i could remember it had a

3423
02:13:13,109 --> 02:13:11,199
triangle and it had something similar to

3424
02:13:20,149 --> 02:13:13,119
the american medical association it was

3425
02:13:23,109 --> 02:13:21,430
help us out in the chat what's the name

3426
02:13:25,910 --> 02:13:23,119
for that staff with the wings and the

3427
02:13:29,030 --> 02:13:25,920
snake yeah it was similar to that yeah

3428
02:13:30,470 --> 02:13:29,040
it was separate like

3429
02:13:32,550 --> 02:13:30,480
and um

3430
02:13:35,189 --> 02:13:32,560
but overall circular so i think it was

3431
02:13:37,510 --> 02:13:35,199
like a triangle in a circle or something

3432
02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:37,520
but i saw a nordic being with a

3433
02:13:41,910 --> 02:13:40,480
medallion around his neck with five

3434
02:13:44,870 --> 02:13:41,920
five spokes

3435
02:13:47,589 --> 02:13:44,880
and he had a high collar high white car

3436
02:13:50,390 --> 02:13:47,599
on a road and he looked like moses

3437
02:13:52,870 --> 02:13:50,400
and he was all they kind of had wrinkles

3438
02:13:55,830 --> 02:13:52,880
but like real good looking old like sort

3439
02:13:57,669 --> 02:13:55,840
of like an alien close kind of thing

3440
02:14:01,189 --> 02:13:57,679
yeah going on like

3441
02:14:02,310 --> 02:14:01,199
like photogenic features

3442
02:14:04,069 --> 02:14:02,320
damn

3443
02:14:05,830 --> 02:14:04,079
uh i'm not trying to make a joke here

3444
02:14:08,950 --> 02:14:05,840
but did you see that

3445
02:14:12,310 --> 02:14:08,960
did you say that you he had nipples

3446
02:14:13,990 --> 02:14:12,320
no no did i said um

3447
02:14:16,229 --> 02:14:14,000
what did i say i said

3448
02:14:17,750 --> 02:14:16,239
medallion of five spokes

3449
02:14:19,189 --> 02:14:17,760
a high collar

3450
02:14:21,189 --> 02:14:19,199
wrinkles

3451
02:14:23,030 --> 02:14:21,199
that's what you heard

3452
02:14:25,430 --> 02:14:23,040
got it got it

3453
02:14:27,270 --> 02:14:25,440
that is funny

3454
02:14:28,390 --> 02:14:27,280
i thought you said nipples because i was

3455
02:14:30,709 --> 02:14:28,400
i thought you were talking about like

3456
02:14:32,629 --> 02:14:30,719
shiny nipple sorry uh

3457
02:14:34,390 --> 02:14:32,639
but yeah no like but the description

3458
02:14:36,069 --> 02:14:34,400
though like we're talking about like

3459
02:14:38,229 --> 02:14:36,079
very specific things that you remember

3460
02:14:40,709 --> 02:14:38,239
this high collared

3461
02:14:43,109 --> 02:14:40,719
shirt or or or kind of would it be

3462
02:14:44,149 --> 02:14:43,119
considered like a doctor's

3463
02:14:45,669 --> 02:14:44,159
uh

3464
02:14:47,030 --> 02:14:45,679
not a robe what do you call it like a

3465
02:14:48,629 --> 02:14:47,040
not a scrub

3466
02:14:50,069 --> 02:14:48,639
but like was it white do you remember

3467
02:14:52,069 --> 02:14:50,079
like what color the

3468
02:14:54,390 --> 02:14:52,079
the shirt the clothing was well the

3469
02:14:58,790 --> 02:14:54,400
nordic being it wasn't

3470
02:15:03,910 --> 02:15:00,629
coat that they were in examination with

3471
02:15:05,990 --> 02:15:03,920
the doctors it was it was a row

3472
02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:06,000
sort of more akin to what you'd see a

3473
02:15:08,470 --> 02:15:07,360
priest wear

3474
02:15:11,750 --> 02:15:08,480
flowing

3475
02:15:14,629 --> 02:15:11,760
like it looked majestic like like he was

3476
02:15:16,709 --> 02:15:14,639
a prince or king and it had this elvis

3477
02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:16,719
presley high collar

3478
02:15:21,189 --> 02:15:19,360
and i think it was it was pleated if i

3479
02:15:24,149 --> 02:15:21,199
remember correctly

3480
02:15:26,629 --> 02:15:24,159
um and it was just really

3481
02:15:28,709 --> 02:15:26,639
weirdly high collar and

3482
02:15:30,790 --> 02:15:28,719
long white hair

3483
02:15:34,709 --> 02:15:30,800
and uh

3484
02:15:36,629 --> 02:15:34,719
he just uh came down in the back

3485
02:15:39,109 --> 02:15:36,639
outside the sliding glass door floating

3486
02:15:41,669 --> 02:15:39,119
outside the feet first and i was i was

3487
02:15:43,589 --> 02:15:41,679
terrified but then i heard a sound like

3488
02:15:45,910 --> 02:15:43,599
a flute a beeping noise a high pitched

3489
02:15:48,950 --> 02:15:45,920
sound it calmed me

3490
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:48,960
and uh it was totally possibly calm and

3491
02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:51,760
i went outside to open the door and i

3492
02:15:56,790 --> 02:15:53,520
was he was right in front of me he was

3493
02:15:58,550 --> 02:15:56,800
tall and i looked at his forehead

3494
02:16:01,430 --> 02:15:58,560
and the third eye opened up on his

3495
02:16:02,830 --> 02:16:01,440
forehead and when i saw that eye

3496
02:16:05,589 --> 02:16:02,840
it was like our

3497
02:16:09,109 --> 02:16:05,599
consciousness melded into one

3498
02:16:11,430 --> 02:16:09,119
like a mind and it's like i was like

3499
02:16:14,950 --> 02:16:11,440
aware of just so much more i can't

3500
02:16:19,430 --> 02:16:14,960
explain that feeling that was amazing

3501
02:16:20,550 --> 02:16:19,440
i've never done drugs but it had to be

3502
02:16:21,750 --> 02:16:20,560
it was

3503
02:16:22,950 --> 02:16:21,760
really

3504
02:16:24,870 --> 02:16:22,960
amazing

3505
02:16:28,310 --> 02:16:24,880
so you mind melded with this this

3506
02:16:29,910 --> 02:16:28,320
humanoid or nordic person so

3507
02:16:31,669 --> 02:16:29,920
we've we've gone through i mean this is

3508
02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:31,679
what makes your story so fascinating

3509
02:16:35,990 --> 02:16:34,319
because of not only have you

3510
02:16:37,669 --> 02:16:36,000
encountered so many different types of

3511
02:16:39,429 --> 02:16:37,679
craft

3512
02:16:41,750 --> 02:16:39,439
which makes

3513
02:16:43,830 --> 02:16:41,760
your story very just by itself very

3514
02:16:47,270 --> 02:16:43,840
interesting because a lot of people only

3515
02:16:48,469 --> 02:16:47,280
only experience maybe one maybe two

3516
02:16:51,190 --> 02:16:48,479
if any

3517
02:16:53,910 --> 02:16:51,200
uh but the beings uh

3518
02:16:55,669 --> 02:16:53,920
the grays are the most common in in our

3519
02:16:57,030 --> 02:16:55,679
in my experience of the things that i've

3520
02:17:01,830 --> 02:16:57,040
the people

3521
02:17:03,429 --> 02:17:01,840
that i've experienced and talked to um

3522
02:17:05,830 --> 02:17:03,439
the grace seemed to be

3523
02:17:08,469 --> 02:17:05,840
the question was back to like are the

3524
02:17:12,150 --> 02:17:08,479
are these beings mechanical robotic or

3525
02:17:13,349 --> 02:17:12,160
or bio biological and i love your answer

3526
02:17:14,389 --> 02:17:13,359
where like

3527
02:17:16,389 --> 02:17:14,399
might be both

3528
02:17:18,150 --> 02:17:16,399
and we just don't know how to how to

3529
02:17:20,150 --> 02:17:18,160
talk about it or there's not a word for

3530
02:17:20,950 --> 02:17:20,160
it yet maybe there's both

3531
02:17:22,309 --> 02:17:20,960
um

3532
02:17:25,030 --> 02:17:22,319
and that seems to be like the common

3533
02:17:26,629 --> 02:17:25,040
denominator and a lot of

3534
02:17:29,830 --> 02:17:26,639
experiences where there's at least a

3535
02:17:31,349 --> 02:17:29,840
couple of of like worker dudes with tiny

3536
02:17:37,110 --> 02:17:31,359
hands and as you said they're like

3537
02:17:40,389 --> 02:17:38,870
and then it's accompanied by either

3538
02:17:43,030 --> 02:17:40,399
either a mantis

3539
02:17:44,309 --> 02:17:43,040
or a nordic or sometimes in your case

3540
02:17:46,629 --> 02:17:44,319
both

3541
02:17:49,110 --> 02:17:46,639
which is man that like like if there was

3542
02:17:51,669 --> 02:17:49,120
a check box like there's a lot of checks

3543
02:17:52,870 --> 02:17:51,679
it's pretty awesome yeah

3544
02:17:56,070 --> 02:17:52,880
i

3545
02:17:58,629 --> 02:17:56,080
they say that the grades may be separate

3546
02:18:00,309 --> 02:17:58,639
from another spot in that experience i

3547
02:18:01,270 --> 02:18:00,319
saw greg

3548
02:18:03,190 --> 02:18:01,280
and

3549
02:18:05,669 --> 02:18:03,200
i was uh i got up in the middle of the

3550
02:18:07,509 --> 02:18:05,679
night and i was like

3551
02:18:09,030 --> 02:18:07,519
you know like i said it's an awesome

3552
02:18:09,910 --> 02:18:09,040
state of awareness but i knew i wasn't

3553
02:18:12,469 --> 02:18:09,920
drinking

3554
02:18:14,150 --> 02:18:12,479
and there was a knock on the door

3555
02:18:16,709 --> 02:18:14,160
and i opened the door

3556
02:18:18,469 --> 02:18:16,719
and there was a woman standing there

3557
02:18:20,070 --> 02:18:18,479
in a weird big hat

3558
02:18:22,230 --> 02:18:20,080
like in the movie the exorcist sort of

3559
02:18:24,469 --> 02:18:22,240
this guy showed up with the black hat he

3560
02:18:27,270 --> 02:18:24,479
looks like a weird black hat on and she

3561
02:18:28,549 --> 02:18:27,280
looked up at me and she transformed into

3562
02:18:30,709 --> 02:18:28,559
a gray

3563
02:18:32,629 --> 02:18:30,719
and when i saw that it scared the crap

3564
02:18:34,790 --> 02:18:32,639
of me and i slammed the door

3565
02:18:37,429 --> 02:18:34,800
and then as soon as i saw that

3566
02:18:39,030 --> 02:18:37,439
i started to panic and that's when they

3567
02:18:40,549 --> 02:18:39,040
started to really

3568
02:18:43,110 --> 02:18:40,559
alter my awareness because i couldn't

3569
02:18:46,309 --> 02:18:43,120
handle it and then i slipped into like

3570
02:18:48,150 --> 02:18:46,319
this what they call the odds factor

3571
02:18:50,549 --> 02:18:48,160
i couldn't handle that

3572
02:18:53,110 --> 02:18:50,559
her turning into a grip so i know i

3573
02:18:54,709 --> 02:18:53,120
really saw that and then that's when i

3574
02:18:55,910 --> 02:18:54,719
heard the beacon sound and the nordic

3575
02:18:57,429 --> 02:18:55,920
showed up

3576
02:18:59,030 --> 02:18:57,439
and then in the morning

3577
02:19:01,589 --> 02:18:59,040
my roommate said did you leave the

3578
02:19:03,830 --> 02:19:01,599
sliding glass doors and i i told you to

3579
02:19:11,830 --> 02:19:03,840
always check it lock it i said no it was

3580
02:19:16,709 --> 02:19:14,070
this weird experience and i saw this

3581
02:19:18,230 --> 02:19:16,719
guy with a white beard and he said

3582
02:19:20,309 --> 02:19:18,240
he looked like he saw ghosts and so

3583
02:19:24,549 --> 02:19:20,319
that's really weird because i thought i

3584
02:19:28,950 --> 02:19:27,190
and he looked at me and said

3585
02:19:30,629 --> 02:19:28,960
this is really weird and i don't want to

3586
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:30,639
talk about food

3587
02:19:35,830 --> 02:19:32,559
and he just walked away and never talked

3588
02:19:39,110 --> 02:19:35,840
about it in fact he left sort of after

3589
02:19:43,190 --> 02:19:40,950
was just a random roommate over the

3590
02:19:46,629 --> 02:19:43,200
course

3591
02:19:48,790 --> 02:19:46,639
and uh i was like yeah again witness so

3592
02:19:51,830 --> 02:19:48,800
why are they doing that okay

3593
02:19:53,750 --> 02:19:51,840
they're letting they're telling me hello

3594
02:19:55,349 --> 02:19:53,760
this is real

3595
02:19:57,110 --> 02:19:55,359
you know what i'm saying

3596
02:19:59,190 --> 02:19:57,120
yeah and there's a reason and i don't

3597
02:20:01,190 --> 02:19:59,200
know what the reason is

3598
02:20:03,270 --> 02:20:01,200
that they're telling me

3599
02:20:04,790 --> 02:20:03,280
they're using me maybe as a sort of

3600
02:20:07,110 --> 02:20:04,800
spokesperson

3601
02:20:09,030 --> 02:20:07,120
this is real but they don't want to just

3602
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:09,040
show up on the white house lawn

3603
02:20:13,830 --> 02:20:11,280
and tell everyone all at once but they

3604
02:20:16,389 --> 02:20:13,840
let certain select people now

3605
02:20:18,230 --> 02:20:16,399
with enough personal proof now maybe

3606
02:20:21,030 --> 02:20:18,240
people won't believe me right but i've

3607
02:20:23,349 --> 02:20:21,040
got so many businesses that i could pull

3608
02:20:27,830 --> 02:20:23,359
up right now like i could get

3609
02:20:31,910 --> 02:20:28,830
like i

3610
02:20:33,429 --> 02:20:31,920
have hell yeah

3611
02:20:34,790 --> 02:20:33,439
i feel like your story we could we could

3612
02:20:36,469 --> 02:20:34,800
chat for a couple years and we won't

3613
02:20:40,389 --> 02:20:36,479
even get to the end of it

3614
02:20:43,270 --> 02:20:41,830
and i'm serious

3615
02:20:47,190 --> 02:20:43,280
yeah no i

3616
02:20:49,190 --> 02:20:47,200
i've i've seen what you uh yeah

3617
02:20:51,990 --> 02:20:49,200
the little bit that you sent me is is uh

3618
02:20:54,710 --> 02:20:52,000
man it's so fascinating i i

3619
02:20:56,469 --> 02:20:54,720
i hope that we can have you back on to i

3620
02:20:58,710 --> 02:20:56,479
don't know maybe we we could do like a

3621
02:21:01,670 --> 02:20:58,720
once a month check in with uh with adam

3622
02:21:03,830 --> 02:21:01,680
dude or [\h__\h] maybe you should uh i think

3623
02:21:04,710 --> 02:21:03,840
we might start doing a uh

3624
02:21:06,950 --> 02:21:04,720
a

3625
02:21:09,270 --> 02:21:06,960
um

3626
02:21:12,070 --> 02:21:09,280
that's a common thing in the

3627
02:21:14,710 --> 02:21:12,080
in the ufo ufology but not not just that

3628
02:21:16,790 --> 02:21:14,720
uh but but having a roundtable with with

3629
02:21:19,030 --> 02:21:16,800
your buds and just kind of chatting

3630
02:21:20,870 --> 02:21:19,040
about about stuff dude you're always

3631
02:21:21,910 --> 02:21:20,880
welcome to do that so i'll let you know

3632
02:21:22,710 --> 02:21:21,920
but uh

3633
02:21:24,150 --> 02:21:22,720
man

3634
02:21:27,990 --> 02:21:24,160
your story is

3635
02:21:29,510 --> 02:21:28,000
is so lengthy like that um

3636
02:21:31,030 --> 02:21:29,520
even though we've jumped around what

3637
02:21:34,230 --> 02:21:31,040
seems like we've jumped around a lot

3638
02:21:36,710 --> 02:21:34,240
tonight we really have been

3639
02:21:38,710 --> 02:21:36,720
constricted to really one tiny portion

3640
02:21:40,950 --> 02:21:38,720
of your story

3641
02:21:43,030 --> 02:21:40,960
there's so much more is there

3642
02:21:45,349 --> 02:21:43,040
as we kind of as we kind of end tonight

3643
02:21:46,710 --> 02:21:45,359
we got about seven more minutes i

3644
02:21:49,030 --> 02:21:46,720
honestly i

3645
02:21:53,270 --> 02:21:49,040
i don't think we should wait for joe

3646
02:21:54,950 --> 02:21:53,280
i mean i i might wait for joe i mean um

3647
02:21:57,349 --> 02:21:54,960
yeah he said he said we're still we're

3648
02:21:59,910 --> 02:21:57,359
still setting up he texted me um

3649
02:22:01,990 --> 02:21:59,920
uh sorry this he said sorry bro this

3650
02:22:03,349 --> 02:22:02,000
turned into a dumpster fire and my phone

3651
02:22:06,389 --> 02:22:03,359
is at one percent

3652
02:22:08,230 --> 02:22:06,399
um so yeah but uh dude we would love to

3653
02:22:09,110 --> 02:22:08,240
have you back on and and what i always

3654
02:22:11,270 --> 02:22:09,120
like to

3655
02:22:13,590 --> 02:22:11,280
to end these these uh interviews and

3656
02:22:15,190 --> 02:22:13,600
anybody we talk to i mean

3657
02:22:17,990 --> 02:22:15,200
it's not even an interview it's it's

3658
02:22:20,550 --> 02:22:18,000
just a bunch of people hanging out

3659
02:22:22,070 --> 02:22:20,560
and talking about their experiences and

3660
02:22:24,070 --> 02:22:22,080
and you you were this source of

3661
02:22:25,510 --> 02:22:24,080
knowledge you were close to the subject

3662
02:22:27,910 --> 02:22:25,520
that we're all so passionate and

3663
02:22:31,190 --> 02:22:27,920
interested about so what i always like

3664
02:22:33,429 --> 02:22:31,200
to to in these things is like

3665
02:22:35,990 --> 02:22:33,439
like how can how can we take something

3666
02:22:37,750 --> 02:22:36,000
positive away from your experience or is

3667
02:22:38,950 --> 02:22:37,760
there something that you could put out

3668
02:22:41,030 --> 02:22:38,960
in the universe

3669
02:22:42,150 --> 02:22:41,040
that people can hold on to

3670
02:22:44,309 --> 02:22:42,160
um

3671
02:22:46,070 --> 02:22:44,319
that that's in a more positive light

3672
02:22:47,670 --> 02:22:46,080
because there is a lot of darkness

3673
02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:47,680
what's something positive you can bring

3674
02:22:51,190 --> 02:22:50,160
out from this

3675
02:22:54,389 --> 02:22:51,200
yeah

3676
02:22:56,150 --> 02:22:54,399
uh well that was my answer would have to

3677
02:22:58,309 --> 02:22:56,160
be

3678
02:23:01,349 --> 02:22:58,319
age old but

3679
02:23:02,830 --> 02:23:01,359
love overcomes off love heals love and

3680
02:23:05,590 --> 02:23:02,840
cancer

3681
02:23:08,150 --> 02:23:05,600
if you can love and be loved

3682
02:23:10,309 --> 02:23:08,160
if you heal you can have a good life you

3683
02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:10,319
can overcome anything

3684
02:23:14,950 --> 02:23:13,200
and that's what life's about we can't

3685
02:23:24,780 --> 02:23:14,960
lose our humanity

3686
02:23:24,790 --> 02:23:30,950
[Music]

3687
02:23:34,469 --> 02:23:32,389
love my family

3688
02:23:36,230 --> 02:23:34,479
i love my friends they can't take that

3689
02:23:39,349 --> 02:23:36,240
away from me

3690
02:23:41,750 --> 02:23:39,359
that's what we have in our humanity

3691
02:23:42,950 --> 02:23:41,760
you you can stand by that

3692
02:23:45,190 --> 02:23:42,960
yeah because i'm not like a

3693
02:23:47,830 --> 02:23:45,200
demonstration

3694
02:23:49,910 --> 02:23:47,840
you know hear people i don't know what

3695
02:23:51,110 --> 02:23:49,920
the ending is so i try to stay

3696
02:23:52,630 --> 02:23:51,120
open-minded

3697
02:23:54,469 --> 02:23:52,640
and i just say

3698
02:23:56,389 --> 02:23:54,479
live your life

3699
02:23:57,750 --> 02:23:56,399
and appreciate all the blessings you

3700
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:57,760
have sit down

3701
02:24:00,550 --> 02:23:59,120
write out everything you're happy and

3702
02:24:01,750 --> 02:24:00,560
thankful for especially during the

3703
02:24:03,190 --> 02:24:01,760
holidays

3704
02:24:05,670 --> 02:24:03,200
appreciate

3705
02:24:08,469 --> 02:24:05,680
reading love the people who love you

3706
02:24:10,389 --> 02:24:08,479
and that's just the beauty of being in

3707
02:24:13,429 --> 02:24:10,399
the capacity for love

3708
02:24:15,030 --> 02:24:13,439
and understanding and my mission in life

3709
02:24:16,870 --> 02:24:15,040
is to try to make the world a better

3710
02:24:17,830 --> 02:24:16,880
place before i leave

3711
02:24:20,070 --> 02:24:17,840
so

3712
02:24:23,910 --> 02:24:20,080
they can't stop me from being a good

3713
02:24:26,150 --> 02:24:25,110
love that

3714
02:24:31,349 --> 02:24:26,160
beautiful

3715
02:24:33,270 --> 02:24:31,359
being

3716
02:24:37,110 --> 02:24:33,280
even after all you've been through you

3717
02:24:38,950 --> 02:24:37,120
can still come out of this uh uh

3718
02:24:41,349 --> 02:24:38,960
i mean we're all kind of weird right i

3719
02:24:43,190 --> 02:24:41,359
mean you're a normal person considering

3720
02:24:46,070 --> 02:24:43,200
everything you've been through dude in

3721
02:24:48,230 --> 02:24:46,080
my in my opinion and you're a great dude

3722
02:24:51,190 --> 02:24:48,240
you're a positive guy you're a funny guy

3723
02:24:52,870 --> 02:24:51,200
uh and man i've just so enjoyed chatting

3724
02:25:01,510 --> 02:24:52,880
with you tonight man with you in the

3725
02:25:05,750 --> 02:25:03,750
it was a great experience

3726
02:25:07,110 --> 02:25:05,760
and it's just

3727
02:25:09,750 --> 02:25:07,120
i'm just trying

3728
02:25:11,990 --> 02:25:09,760
i wish i could have found into more

3729
02:25:14,150 --> 02:25:12,000
specific detail about entire

3730
02:25:14,950 --> 02:25:14,160
events but the conversation for what it

3731
02:25:20,469 --> 02:25:14,960
was

3732
02:25:22,830 --> 02:25:20,479
uh special and i had got the chance to

3733
02:25:25,110 --> 02:25:22,840
say things that i've probably never said

3734
02:25:26,870 --> 02:25:25,120
before that's what it's about man it's

3735
02:25:29,510 --> 02:25:26,880
it's about uh well this show is about

3736
02:25:30,950 --> 02:25:29,520
getting to know people it's not about

3737
02:25:33,830 --> 02:25:30,960
it's not about those those those

3738
02:25:37,429 --> 02:25:33,840
headlines it's not about the

3739
02:25:38,710 --> 02:25:37,439
the shock and wow factor um yeah and and

3740
02:25:41,670 --> 02:25:38,720
if you're looking for that there's other

3741
02:25:43,750 --> 02:25:41,680
shows that do that better than us

3742
02:25:45,590 --> 02:25:43,760
we like to get to know people here so no

3743
02:25:47,830 --> 02:25:45,600
i've i've done now i'm not looking for

3744
02:25:49,190 --> 02:25:47,840
that like i mean i just know the

3745
02:25:50,630 --> 02:25:49,200
conversation

3746
02:25:52,630 --> 02:25:50,640
is

3747
02:25:54,230 --> 02:25:52,640
it's great and i i just have an

3748
02:25:55,110 --> 02:25:54,240
awareness that

3749
02:25:56,870 --> 02:25:55,120
people

3750
02:25:59,349 --> 02:25:56,880
want to hear

3751
02:26:02,309 --> 02:25:59,359
you know one entire event like you said

3752
02:26:05,349 --> 02:26:02,319
the craft i thought like next time we

3753
02:26:07,750 --> 02:26:05,359
talk ask me about the times i saw

3754
02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:07,760
grace while i was awake because i felt

3755
02:26:11,429 --> 02:26:09,840
them sometimes when i was awake so

3756
02:26:12,550 --> 02:26:11,439
there's a there's a lot of stuff we need

3757
02:26:14,550 --> 02:26:12,560
to go into

3758
02:26:18,150 --> 02:26:14,560
and uh i want to share that with what

3759
02:26:20,389 --> 02:26:18,160
i'm saying it's like not not for like

3760
02:26:22,150 --> 02:26:20,399
shock people or or

3761
02:26:25,030 --> 02:26:22,160
for ratings

3762
02:26:27,910 --> 02:26:25,040
but it's it's just you know

3763
02:26:31,110 --> 02:26:27,920
to get a complete picture you can't give

3764
02:26:33,429 --> 02:26:31,120
a complete picture in two hours

3765
02:26:35,590 --> 02:26:33,439
yeah it's true well let alone like a

3766
02:26:38,150 --> 02:26:35,600
45-minute interview like we were talking

3767
02:26:39,750 --> 02:26:38,160
about earlier um it's just it's it's not

3768
02:26:41,750 --> 02:26:39,760
possible that's why people write books

3769
02:26:43,429 --> 02:26:41,760
right um and that's that's kind of what

3770
02:26:45,110 --> 02:26:43,439
we like the vibe we want to bring is

3771
02:26:47,590 --> 02:26:45,120
like dude we'd love to have you back on

3772
02:26:50,150 --> 02:26:47,600
and dive deeper into your story

3773
02:26:52,150 --> 02:26:50,160
next time we come uh you come on we'll

3774
02:26:52,950 --> 02:26:52,160
just kind of give a brief overview and

3775
02:26:55,110 --> 02:26:52,960
then

3776
02:26:56,710 --> 02:26:55,120
yeah next time just take some uh i'll

3777
02:26:58,070 --> 02:26:56,720
take some notes of like kind of what we

3778
02:27:00,150 --> 02:26:58,080
talked about and

3779
02:27:01,590 --> 02:27:00,160
i know i have specific questions after

3780
02:27:03,510 --> 02:27:01,600
speaking with you tonight and i know a

3781
02:27:05,270 --> 02:27:03,520
lot of our listeners are going to be

3782
02:27:07,830 --> 02:27:05,280
really interested in asking you i know

3783
02:27:09,830 --> 02:27:07,840
after the fact there's there there's a

3784
02:27:10,710 --> 02:27:09,840
really awesome portion that watches us

3785
02:27:12,950 --> 02:27:10,720
live

3786
02:27:15,190 --> 02:27:12,960
and uh they're fan through the through

3787
02:27:17,190 --> 02:27:15,200
but there's there's many many many many

3788
02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:17,200
more that that watch the show and listen

3789
02:27:21,990 --> 02:27:18,560
to it on the

3790
02:27:23,830 --> 02:27:22,000
all the podcast networks out there so um

3791
02:27:25,349 --> 02:27:23,840
i i guarantee you they're going to be a

3792
02:27:27,190 --> 02:27:25,359
lot more questions coming for you next

3793
02:27:28,070 --> 02:27:27,200
time you're on

3794
02:27:31,270 --> 02:27:28,080
uh

3795
02:27:33,030 --> 02:27:31,280
this is great i love talking to you the

3796
02:27:34,790 --> 02:27:33,040
uh the best

3797
02:27:36,020 --> 02:27:34,800
experience i've had

3798
02:27:37,590 --> 02:27:36,030
so far

3799
02:27:39,830 --> 02:27:37,600
[Music]

3800
02:27:41,349 --> 02:27:39,840
cheers dude oh cheers

3801
02:27:48,389 --> 02:27:41,359
we got we got wine i don't know if you

3802
02:27:52,630 --> 02:27:50,950
i was pretty tired tonight so

3803
02:27:54,230 --> 02:27:52,640
i'm sorry if i was

3804
02:27:55,670 --> 02:27:54,240
a little slurred in my speech and all

3805
02:27:58,150 --> 02:27:55,680
over the place but

3806
02:28:00,309 --> 02:27:58,160
i just started to stay

3807
02:28:02,309 --> 02:28:00,319
you sounded freaking fantastic dude just

3808
02:28:03,270 --> 02:28:02,319
be honest you sounded great

3809
02:28:05,349 --> 02:28:03,280
um

3810
02:28:06,950 --> 02:28:05,359
yeah dude hey say hi to your cats for me

3811
02:28:08,630 --> 02:28:06,960
to or your cat that drinks out of the

3812
02:28:10,070 --> 02:28:08,640
faucet

3813
02:28:11,590 --> 02:28:10,080
and uh

3814
02:28:13,750 --> 02:28:11,600
we'll be in touch bro and i'd love to

3815
02:28:16,550 --> 02:28:13,760
have you back on joe will be joining us

3816
02:28:18,870 --> 02:28:16,560
next time uh uh he you know his sends

3817
02:28:21,750 --> 02:28:18,880
his love and wishes he could have made

3818
02:28:24,150 --> 02:28:21,760
it but yeah uh work got in the way so uh

3819
02:28:26,950 --> 02:28:24,160
he says what's up and much love

3820
02:28:28,550 --> 02:28:26,960
so uh next time dude we'll i'll i'll

3821
02:28:29,830 --> 02:28:28,560
reach out to you and schedule uh the

3822
02:28:31,750 --> 02:28:29,840
next time we should just hang out for a

3823
02:28:33,510 --> 02:28:31,760
little bit and just talk and we'll we'll

3824
02:28:35,910 --> 02:28:33,520
figure something out brother that sounds

3825
02:28:40,150 --> 02:28:35,920
good and uh i enjoyed talking to you

3826
02:28:42,230 --> 02:28:40,160
through a great show

3827
02:28:43,510 --> 02:28:42,240
thank you so much thank you so much man

3828
02:28:45,670 --> 02:28:43,520
well hey have a good night brother i'll

3829
02:28:49,270 --> 02:28:45,680
talk to you later man i'll pop you later

3830
02:28:54,790 --> 02:28:52,870
good night my sweet prince

3831
02:29:00,600 --> 02:28:54,800
adam

3832
02:29:00,610 --> 02:29:04,630
[Music]

3833
02:29:09,670 --> 02:29:07,030
okay i have not heard back from joe

3834
02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:09,680
let's give him a call shall we

3835
02:29:13,750 --> 02:29:11,200
by the way that was awesome what did you

3836
02:29:14,950 --> 02:29:13,760
guys think of adam adam was badass his

3837
02:29:17,030 --> 02:29:14,960
stories

3838
02:29:18,790 --> 02:29:17,040
um uh i know

3839
02:29:20,230 --> 02:29:18,800
for some of you the microphone there was

3840
02:29:21,670 --> 02:29:20,240
a little hard to understand but i could

3841
02:29:23,510 --> 02:29:21,680
hear him very clearly and i have

3842
02:29:26,630 --> 02:29:23,520
terrible ears so i don't know what the

3843
02:29:28,230 --> 02:29:26,640
hell you guys are talking about it

3844
02:29:29,590 --> 02:29:28,240
um

3845
02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:29,600
dude let's just give call let's let's

3846
02:29:39,030 --> 02:29:35,510
dude

3847
02:29:43,030 --> 02:29:40,550
oh she says you want to hear more from

3848
02:29:49,030 --> 02:29:43,040
adam well he's going to be back on as

3849
02:29:49,040 --> 02:30:00,230
it's like this

3850
02:30:03,670 --> 02:30:02,230
all right

3851
02:30:06,070 --> 02:30:03,680
so

3852
02:30:07,910 --> 02:30:06,080
screening my calls are we joseph joe

3853
02:30:12,790 --> 02:30:07,920
schiff

3854
02:30:16,550 --> 02:30:12,800
um yeah so i uh i know it's 10 30.

3855
02:30:18,630 --> 02:30:16,560
sorry comes on at 11. we've got

3856
02:30:20,550 --> 02:30:18,640
28 man i was kind of hoping joe was

3857
02:30:21,590 --> 02:30:20,560
gonna uh hop on and we'd chat for a

3858
02:30:26,230 --> 02:30:21,600
little bit

3859
02:30:28,790 --> 02:30:26,240
uh looks like adam's still in the

3860
02:30:30,150 --> 02:30:28,800
background do we i mean do we want to

3861
02:30:32,150 --> 02:30:30,160
ask more questions if we want to bring

3862
02:30:33,910 --> 02:30:32,160
him back in it seems like he's still

3863
02:30:35,670 --> 02:30:33,920
here or

3864
02:30:37,510 --> 02:30:35,680
big willy do you want to hop in and save

3865
02:30:41,990 --> 02:30:37,520
me here bud or are we hanging out or

3866
02:30:42,000 --> 02:30:46,389
i'll send you i'll send you a link dude

3867
02:30:51,670 --> 02:30:48,469
that's the big willy takeover he's taken

3868
02:30:59,590 --> 02:30:51,680
over sor and ufo garage

3869
02:31:04,950 --> 02:31:03,190
i'll just put in the damn thing

3870
02:31:08,550 --> 02:31:04,960
whoever wants to join y'all come on and

3871
02:31:10,150 --> 02:31:08,560
join we got 30 minutes 28 27 minutes

3872
02:31:11,270 --> 02:31:10,160
till

3873
02:31:13,190 --> 02:31:11,280
uh

3874
02:31:18,150 --> 02:31:13,200
spaced out radio we love spaced out

3875
02:31:20,550 --> 02:31:18,160
radio here at the ufo garage podcast

3876
02:31:23,670 --> 02:31:20,560
we started out as a podcast me and joe

3877
02:31:25,270 --> 02:31:23,680
two buds talking about aliens

3878
02:31:27,750 --> 02:31:25,280
talking about aliens and butts and like

3879
02:31:29,030 --> 02:31:27,760
boobs and like beer and

3880
02:31:37,190 --> 02:31:29,040
like

3881
02:31:39,990 --> 02:31:37,200
and now we're doing live youtube shows

3882
02:31:41,349 --> 02:31:40,000
and this is kind of a new thing

3883
02:31:43,510 --> 02:31:41,359
and you know what's cool is that we get

3884
02:31:46,150 --> 02:31:43,520
to talk to people like adam ambrose who

3885
02:31:48,150 --> 02:31:46,160
have literally seen aliens since they he

3886
02:31:52,150 --> 02:31:48,160
was a child

3887
02:31:52,160 --> 02:31:55,510
simon wales

3888
02:31:59,510 --> 02:31:57,510
what's up dude come join i put the

3889
02:32:02,710 --> 02:31:59,520
freaking link in there who who watched

3890
02:32:06,389 --> 02:32:04,870
uh we got tammy finnegan where are you

3891
02:32:10,389 --> 02:32:06,399
at girl

3892
02:32:15,830 --> 02:32:12,870
um michael gutierrez

3893
02:32:17,910 --> 02:32:15,840
simon wales

3894
02:32:21,750 --> 02:32:17,920
the impaler

3895
02:32:27,510 --> 02:32:24,469
tony hey we got tony

3896
02:32:29,830 --> 02:32:27,520
oh snap what's up dude what's up

3897
02:32:31,590 --> 02:32:29,840
hey long time no chat dude

3898
02:32:32,870 --> 02:32:31,600
what do you mean

3899
02:32:34,950 --> 02:32:32,880
long time is it a long time no change

3900
02:32:37,190 --> 02:32:34,960
that's a long time it's like two weeks

3901
02:32:39,110 --> 02:32:37,200
no it was like two hours i just i was

3902
02:32:41,429 --> 02:32:39,120
just chatting with you

3903
02:32:44,550 --> 02:32:41,439
oh big willie wait i'm gonna punch you

3904
02:32:49,270 --> 02:32:47,270
are you are you shirtless right now but

3905
02:32:51,590 --> 02:32:49,280
i got a shirt on

3906
02:32:53,590 --> 02:32:51,600
what are you talking about dude i'm

3907
02:32:56,150 --> 02:32:53,600
still wearing my postal stuff

3908
02:32:57,510 --> 02:32:56,160
oh yeah dude that's what's up oh we got

3909
02:33:02,950 --> 02:32:57,520
larry

3910
02:33:06,469 --> 02:33:05,190
should we all pop our pop pop or drops

3911
02:33:08,309 --> 02:33:06,479
off or what dude

3912
02:33:09,990 --> 02:33:08,319
just just the right side of the screen

3913
02:33:11,590 --> 02:33:10,000
the left side of the screen

3914
02:33:13,830 --> 02:33:11,600
whatever people are looking at this is

3915
02:33:15,830 --> 02:33:13,840
that side i'm not taking my shirt off

3916
02:33:17,110 --> 02:33:15,840
but larry do not ever put a shirt back

3917
02:33:18,870 --> 02:33:17,120
on all right fine

3918
02:33:21,190 --> 02:33:18,880
i'm sorry no

3919
02:33:39,349 --> 02:33:21,200
i

3920
02:33:41,030 --> 02:33:39,359
yeah

3921
02:33:43,030 --> 02:33:41,040
why are you trying to make us look like

3922
02:33:45,270 --> 02:33:43,040
you're making us look like chomps dude

3923
02:33:48,309 --> 02:33:45,280
why are you so buff dude i'm not trying

3924
02:33:51,770 --> 02:33:49,990
did you ever gonna come here and flex on

3925
02:33:54,230 --> 02:33:51,780
the boys in the garage how dare you

3926
02:33:55,670 --> 02:33:54,240
[Laughter]

3927
02:33:58,790 --> 02:33:55,680
why are you

3928
02:34:02,950 --> 02:34:00,469
willie what kind of pillow are you like

3929
02:34:05,110 --> 02:34:02,960
laying on like a hello kitty creepy ass

3930
02:34:08,710 --> 02:34:05,120
like furby pillow what is that

3931
02:34:10,230 --> 02:34:08,720
my my wife has an obsession with cows

3932
02:34:12,150 --> 02:34:10,240
and uh

3933
02:34:15,110 --> 02:34:12,160
oh man

3934
02:34:18,790 --> 02:34:15,120
but it's it's a it's a cow it's a cow

3935
02:34:20,950 --> 02:34:18,800
now it's cute now it's cute

3936
02:34:24,710 --> 02:34:20,960
what about uh it reminded me of a luck

3937
02:34:26,710 --> 02:34:24,720
dragon oh oh william's gone

3938
02:34:28,230 --> 02:34:26,720
tony and larry what's up boys how did

3939
02:34:30,389 --> 02:34:28,240
what did you think guys think about anna

3940
02:34:31,830 --> 02:34:30,399
uh adam ambrose tonight what'd you get

3941
02:34:33,429 --> 02:34:31,840
what are your thoughts yeah

3942
02:34:34,950 --> 02:34:33,439
i thought

3943
02:34:40,070 --> 02:34:34,960
i'm lagging out a little bit right now

3944
02:34:43,270 --> 02:34:41,590
yeah i thought it was a great show it

3945
02:34:45,910 --> 02:34:43,280
kind of reminded me some of the

3946
02:34:47,349 --> 02:34:45,920
experiences i had when i was younger i

3947
02:34:49,110 --> 02:34:47,359
had contacted

3948
02:34:51,750 --> 02:34:49,120
you guys before and he asked me to come

3949
02:34:53,910 --> 02:34:51,760
on the show but i didn't get back with

3950
02:34:56,309 --> 02:34:53,920
you

3951
02:34:58,150 --> 02:34:56,319
oh dude when was that because there was

3952
02:35:00,070 --> 02:34:58,160
a time where uh we were having trouble

3953
02:35:02,550 --> 02:35:00,080
with email so that could have been it so

3954
02:35:04,389 --> 02:35:02,560
i apologize for that but

3955
02:35:07,910 --> 02:35:04,399
i'm glad you're right now

3956
02:35:09,750 --> 02:35:07,920
yeah yeah me too it was a probably last

3957
02:35:11,830 --> 02:35:09,760
week i think

3958
02:35:13,429 --> 02:35:11,840
oh that's not what we were having

3959
02:35:16,389 --> 02:35:13,439
problems uh

3960
02:35:18,309 --> 02:35:16,399
that that could totally be my fault

3961
02:35:20,230 --> 02:35:18,319
well no i didn't i didn't try to

3962
02:35:22,469 --> 02:35:20,240
re-contact you i mean

3963
02:35:24,870 --> 02:35:22,479
i didn't uh call but you know to contact

3964
02:35:27,190 --> 02:35:24,880
you to see how to get on the show but

3965
02:35:28,870 --> 02:35:27,200
here i am now dude what's your email now

3966
02:35:31,429 --> 02:35:28,880
so i can write it down and we can have

3967
02:35:33,910 --> 02:35:31,439
you on the show like for reals

3968
02:35:42,309 --> 02:35:33,920
okay it's alderman

3969
02:35:45,910 --> 02:35:43,590
if you take your shirt off i'm taking my

3970
02:35:47,110 --> 02:35:45,920
damn shirt off tony no

3971
02:35:48,150 --> 02:35:47,120
what the [\h__\h] dude i've been wearing a

3972
02:36:01,400 --> 02:35:48,160
shirt

3973
02:36:01,410 --> 02:36:05,110
[Music]

3974
02:36:11,510 --> 02:36:06,830
okay sorry alderman

3975
02:36:17,429 --> 02:36:14,469
what are you doing with your pen

3976
02:36:24,710 --> 02:36:19,830
cursive fan's like

3977
02:36:28,389 --> 02:36:26,870
it just writing in the air

3978
02:36:29,830 --> 02:36:28,399
how are you laughing you got [\h__\h]

3979
02:36:31,580 --> 02:36:29,840
animal pillows

3980
02:36:34,389 --> 02:36:31,590
this fairy that's weird

3981
02:36:36,550 --> 02:36:34,399
[Laughter]

3982
02:36:39,990 --> 02:36:36,560
okay one of those is correct one of

3983
02:36:45,429 --> 02:36:42,150
i can totally do it you take it top or

3984
02:36:50,309 --> 02:36:48,870
yeah it's alderman larry e gmail.com oh

3985
02:36:51,590 --> 02:36:50,319
my gosh you didn't say the e dude what

3986
02:36:54,230 --> 02:36:51,600
the hell

3987
02:36:55,670 --> 02:36:54,240
uh you're all wrong there we go boys

3988
02:36:58,710 --> 02:36:55,680
there we go boys

3989
02:37:01,349 --> 02:36:58,720
well let's do it um uh so guys thoughts

3990
02:37:03,429 --> 02:37:01,359
on uh man uh

3991
02:37:04,389 --> 02:37:03,439
adam was awesome right like did you guys

3992
02:37:05,910 --> 02:37:04,399
have any

3993
02:37:07,750 --> 02:37:05,920
i got chills in a lot of places did

3994
02:37:09,670 --> 02:37:07,760
anybody else

3995
02:37:10,550 --> 02:37:09,680
he's got a lot of [\h__\h] going on

3996
02:37:13,190 --> 02:37:10,560
yeah

3997
02:37:15,349 --> 02:37:13,200
oh my god willie are you like

3998
02:37:17,429 --> 02:37:15,359
are you

3999
02:37:18,950 --> 02:37:17,439
goddammit i think willie's taking some

4000
02:37:21,910 --> 02:37:18,960
[\h__\h] details you're taking you're

4001
02:37:23,830 --> 02:37:21,920
taking over the controller

4002
02:37:24,790 --> 02:37:23,840
i don't understand why this is what

4003
02:37:27,510 --> 02:37:24,800
happened last night that's what i'm

4004
02:37:30,309 --> 02:37:27,520
afraid to like leave because remember

4005
02:37:33,190 --> 02:37:30,319
where i right accidentally

4006
02:37:36,150 --> 02:37:35,030
do you notice how look at his face he's

4007
02:37:37,910 --> 02:37:36,160
only

4008
02:37:39,670 --> 02:37:37,920
oh my gosh well well this is almost

4009
02:37:40,790 --> 02:37:39,680
we've got like 10 minutes so

4010
02:37:42,389 --> 02:37:40,800
oh but that's what i'm saying that's

4011
02:37:43,750 --> 02:37:42,399
weird right because i'm a guest i

4012
02:37:45,590 --> 02:37:43,760
shouldn't be able to do that i shouldn't

4013
02:37:48,230 --> 02:37:45,600
be able to share those banners yeah

4014
02:37:52,389 --> 02:37:50,389
i don't know that's about that's weird

4015
02:37:54,150 --> 02:37:52,399
he's violating you all right who's

4016
02:38:02,400 --> 02:37:54,160
taking their pants off

4017
02:38:02,410 --> 02:38:13,030
[Music]

4018
02:38:19,910 --> 02:38:15,349
we already got it

4019
02:38:24,710 --> 02:38:23,190
oh my god by the way shout out to tammy

4020
02:38:29,510 --> 02:38:24,720
for having to work like extra hard

4021
02:38:32,070 --> 02:38:29,520
tonight to keep us all in line she yeah

4022
02:38:33,590 --> 02:38:32,080
second that willie tammy you crushed it

4023
02:38:35,270 --> 02:38:33,600
tonight um

4024
02:38:37,670 --> 02:38:35,280
everyone

4025
02:38:41,510 --> 02:38:37,680
no tammy was making me about to piss my

4026
02:38:45,270 --> 02:38:41,520
pants i was laughing so hard uh and also

4027
02:38:47,750 --> 02:38:45,280
also uh uh simon wells it and uh

4028
02:38:50,790 --> 02:38:47,760
uh mr cali holy [\h__\h] dude you know i

4029
02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:50,800
went to that's me mr crowley now right

4030
02:38:54,630 --> 02:38:52,800
you're mr okay yeah

4031
02:38:57,590 --> 02:38:54,640
they made me go to mr crowley they would

4032
02:38:59,510 --> 02:38:57,600
like bullied me into it

4033
02:39:02,389 --> 02:38:59,520
did you sing the song

4034
02:39:07,110 --> 02:39:02,399
mr crowley

4035
02:39:07,120 --> 02:39:17,110
now we can get them

4036
02:39:19,990 --> 02:39:18,950
i had a hard time hearing a little bit

4037
02:39:22,070 --> 02:39:20,000
but

4038
02:39:23,670 --> 02:39:22,080
it was still a good show

4039
02:39:25,590 --> 02:39:23,680
heck yeah man thanks larry well i

4040
02:39:27,030 --> 02:39:25,600
appreciate you uh hanging out tonight

4041
02:39:29,030 --> 02:39:27,040
man and i i've got to say you've got a

4042
02:39:30,469 --> 02:39:29,040
fantastic beard

4043
02:39:32,550 --> 02:39:30,479
oh thanks

4044
02:39:38,230 --> 02:39:32,560
you and joe could go toe-to-toe on beard

4045
02:39:38,240 --> 02:39:43,110
i hate joe's hair i want to cut it off

4046
02:39:47,030 --> 02:39:44,150
i mean

4047
02:39:51,990 --> 02:39:48,870
you gotta wait till it is a slippage

4048
02:39:55,910 --> 02:39:54,389
like samson in the bible right

4049
02:39:57,510 --> 02:39:55,920
you could be delilah you go in there and

4050
02:39:58,300 --> 02:39:57,520
you sing them songs

4051
02:40:02,950 --> 02:39:58,310
braid his hair

4052
02:40:04,950 --> 02:40:02,960
[Laughter]

4053
02:40:07,349 --> 02:40:04,960
i wanted that dude that's such a deep

4054
02:40:09,270 --> 02:40:07,359
cut i love it dude i wanted that

4055
02:40:11,670 --> 02:40:09,280
pigtails

4056
02:40:13,990 --> 02:40:11,680
hey i'll tell you as a kid samson was

4057
02:40:16,389 --> 02:40:14,000
such a fascinating story in the bible i

4058
02:40:17,830 --> 02:40:16,399
always found that story to be

4059
02:40:21,269 --> 02:40:17,840
uh

4060
02:40:24,550 --> 02:40:21,279
quite thought provoking i don't know

4061
02:40:28,389 --> 02:40:24,560
even if it is just yeah

4062
02:40:31,030 --> 02:40:29,269
sam

4063
02:40:33,990 --> 02:40:31,040
oh i didn't know that

4064
02:40:38,230 --> 02:40:34,000
yeah samson i thought samson was the uh

4065
02:40:44,150 --> 02:40:41,110
the super smash bros uh

4066
02:40:48,070 --> 02:40:44,160
everyone just gave you a blank stare

4067
02:40:50,389 --> 02:40:48,080
i realized that and i dropped something

4068
02:40:53,269 --> 02:40:50,399
you got animal pillow backer

4069
02:40:55,910 --> 02:40:53,279
can't unsee that willy willy what what's

4070
02:40:57,990 --> 02:40:55,920
the deal what's the story on sam samson

4071
02:41:00,309 --> 02:40:58,000
samson samsonite what are we saying

4072
02:41:02,309 --> 02:41:00,319
samsung

4073
02:41:04,550 --> 02:41:02,319
oh my god this is going great this is

4074
02:41:07,030 --> 02:41:04,560
going great guys it's going south we're

4075
02:41:08,870 --> 02:41:07,040
doing so good uh

4076
02:41:10,630 --> 02:41:08,880
uh

4077
02:41:11,910 --> 02:41:10,640
and everything i wasn't doing anything

4078
02:41:13,510 --> 02:41:11,920
it was just like

4079
02:41:15,110 --> 02:41:13,520
you've lost connection to your camera

4080
02:41:17,269 --> 02:41:15,120
you've lost connection to your mic it

4081
02:41:18,389 --> 02:41:17,279
was just like getting rid of everything

4082
02:41:19,990 --> 02:41:18,399
and i was like

4083
02:41:22,389 --> 02:41:20,000
well you know you can't sorry i'm not

4084
02:41:24,150 --> 02:41:22,399
downstairs in the studio if you do leave

4085
02:41:26,469 --> 02:41:24,160
it just shuts down the whole live stream

4086
02:41:28,070 --> 02:41:26,479
so you get you keep looking

4087
02:41:30,389 --> 02:41:28,080
so afraid earlier when it kicked me i

4088
02:41:31,510 --> 02:41:30,399
was like oh god no

4089
02:41:32,389 --> 02:41:31,520
we're like

4090
02:41:35,990 --> 02:41:32,399
willie

4091
02:41:48,630 --> 02:41:38,070
i'll do you brother

4092
02:41:52,389 --> 02:41:49,830
spirits

4093
02:41:55,910 --> 02:41:52,399
things like that or what

4094
02:41:59,030 --> 02:41:57,750
well yeah you guys mainly talk about

4095
02:42:01,190 --> 02:41:59,040
abductions

4096
02:42:03,590 --> 02:42:01,200
you talk about spirit ghosts we're like

4097
02:42:04,870 --> 02:42:03,600
big children we talk about everything oh

4098
02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:04,880
yeah man

4099
02:42:08,070 --> 02:42:07,120
yeah we're like big children now so it's

4100
02:42:10,230 --> 02:42:08,080
okay

4101
02:42:14,070 --> 02:42:10,240
you gotta keep our focus somebody has to

4102
02:42:17,990 --> 02:42:14,080
be an adult yeah usually it's usually

4103
02:42:19,350 --> 02:42:18,000
it's nibbler my pug oh there goes my cat

4104
02:42:20,469 --> 02:42:19,360
oh what's up

4105
02:42:22,150 --> 02:42:20,479
[Music]

4106
02:42:24,870 --> 02:42:22,160
that's a little cat yeah stick your ass

4107
02:42:27,269 --> 02:42:24,880
in my face anyway yeah i was abducted

4108
02:42:30,309 --> 02:42:27,279
when i was younger i think i'm still

4109
02:42:31,110 --> 02:42:30,319
having like experiences now in my life

4110
02:42:32,550 --> 02:42:31,120
but

4111
02:42:35,110 --> 02:42:32,560
uh

4112
02:42:37,590 --> 02:42:35,120
in my bedroom these things used to come

4113
02:42:38,950 --> 02:42:37,600
into my room i think there were grays a

4114
02:42:41,349 --> 02:42:38,960
couple of times i thought i'd just seen

4115
02:42:44,469 --> 02:42:41,359
a head that popped out of the floor

4116
02:42:46,309 --> 02:42:44,479
and i would get really super scared

4117
02:42:47,910 --> 02:42:46,319
to where i seemed like i couldn't move

4118
02:42:49,429 --> 02:42:47,920
and stuff and i was trying to call out

4119
02:42:51,750 --> 02:42:49,439
and then i remember

4120
02:42:53,830 --> 02:42:51,760
all of a sudden being in a ship

4121
02:42:56,230 --> 02:42:53,840
where there were other children around

4122
02:42:58,790 --> 02:42:56,240
me and stuff and i was screaming and

4123
02:43:00,309 --> 02:42:58,800
crying just shaking trying to figure out

4124
02:43:01,830 --> 02:43:00,319
what was going on and there were other

4125
02:43:02,710 --> 02:43:01,840
there were grays and stuff walking

4126
02:43:04,630 --> 02:43:02,720
around

4127
02:43:06,870 --> 02:43:04,640
and then uh

4128
02:43:08,630 --> 02:43:06,880
they kind of got a hold of me in the big

4129
02:43:11,670 --> 02:43:08,640
white

4130
02:43:13,429 --> 02:43:11,680
and stuff

4131
02:43:15,190 --> 02:43:13,439
but they you know they come up to me and

4132
02:43:17,670 --> 02:43:15,200
told me everything was okay and stuff

4133
02:43:18,630 --> 02:43:17,680
and they took us into this one room one

4134
02:43:20,710 --> 02:43:18,640
time

4135
02:43:23,429 --> 02:43:20,720
and i don't know if it was a projection

4136
02:43:24,870 --> 02:43:23,439
or a window but there are a lot of stars

4137
02:43:26,389 --> 02:43:24,880
and stuff out there and he was pointing

4138
02:43:28,070 --> 02:43:26,399
something out and

4139
02:43:30,070 --> 02:43:28,080
pointing out to something

4140
02:43:31,590 --> 02:43:30,080
and i can't seem to remember

4141
02:43:33,990 --> 02:43:31,600
what he was talking about pointing

4142
02:43:36,469 --> 02:43:34,000
things out so i've always thought about

4143
02:43:38,469 --> 02:43:36,479
getting like a regression getting the

4144
02:43:40,070 --> 02:43:38,479
fish to try to figure out what was going

4145
02:43:41,429 --> 02:43:40,080
on

4146
02:43:43,670 --> 02:43:41,439
dude

4147
02:43:45,110 --> 02:43:43,680
okay i kind of have like something

4148
02:43:47,030 --> 02:43:45,120
similar to that

4149
02:43:49,590 --> 02:43:47,040
like i told you listen to my episode but

4150
02:43:51,030 --> 02:43:49,600
you didn't obviously then

4151
02:43:53,670 --> 02:43:51,040
and uh

4152
02:43:56,469 --> 02:43:53,680
but basically i had

4153
02:43:58,550 --> 02:43:56,479
i had a guy came out of my closet

4154
02:44:00,309 --> 02:43:58,560
and he was a white

4155
02:44:06,469 --> 02:44:00,319
kind of like what you said

4156
02:44:11,269 --> 02:44:08,790
but he wasn't reptilian

4157
02:44:12,870 --> 02:44:11,279
he just kind of had those motions

4158
02:44:15,030 --> 02:44:12,880
and he would come out of my closet

4159
02:44:17,110 --> 02:44:15,040
whenever i was a child

4160
02:44:19,750 --> 02:44:17,120
and he would talk to me but he didn't

4161
02:44:24,630 --> 02:44:19,760
talk i he didn't have a voice he would

4162
02:44:28,630 --> 02:44:26,309
yeah i don't remember hearing a voice

4163
02:44:30,469 --> 02:44:28,640
either but yeah i remember

4164
02:44:31,910 --> 02:44:30,479
but when everything

4165
02:44:34,230 --> 02:44:31,920
well he didn't point things out but

4166
02:44:37,510 --> 02:44:34,240
whenever he was there

4167
02:44:38,950 --> 02:44:37,520
i had no problems that night in my house

4168
02:44:42,389 --> 02:44:38,960
i had no

4169
02:44:44,550 --> 02:44:42,399
issues whatsoever i don't know if it was

4170
02:44:46,550 --> 02:44:44,560
alien i don't know if it was abduction i

4171
02:44:48,389 --> 02:44:46,560
don't know if it was anything but i

4172
02:44:50,309 --> 02:44:48,399
specifically remember this guy coming

4173
02:44:51,750 --> 02:44:50,319
out of my closet i was never afraid of

4174
02:44:53,429 --> 02:44:51,760
him

4175
02:44:55,429 --> 02:44:53,439
yeah you know and he would always

4176
02:44:57,269 --> 02:44:55,439
communicate with me without words he

4177
02:44:59,190 --> 02:44:57,279
would always use his hands he would just

4178
02:45:01,990 --> 02:44:59,200
talk he would be like like i said just

4179
02:45:05,670 --> 02:45:02,870
dude

4180
02:45:07,030 --> 02:45:05,680
and it was like crazy that is trippy it

4181
02:45:08,870 --> 02:45:07,040
was great

4182
02:45:10,550 --> 02:45:08,880
the first time it happened to me i was

4183
02:45:12,630 --> 02:45:10,560
like terrified i didn't know what the

4184
02:45:14,630 --> 02:45:12,640
heck was going on

4185
02:45:15,990 --> 02:45:14,640
at the same time and that was the whole

4186
02:45:18,230 --> 02:45:16,000
thing with all the [\h__\h] that was going

4187
02:45:20,550 --> 02:45:18,240
on in my house i was terrified the first

4188
02:45:22,630 --> 02:45:20,560
time he walked out but then i realized

4189
02:45:24,230 --> 02:45:22,640
whenever he walked out nothing bad

4190
02:45:25,349 --> 02:45:24,240
happened to me the rest of

4191
02:45:27,349 --> 02:45:25,359
the night

4192
02:45:29,830 --> 02:45:27,359
yeah nothing bad ever happened to me

4193
02:45:30,950 --> 02:45:29,840
either see

4194
02:45:33,269 --> 02:45:30,960
damn

4195
02:45:35,269 --> 02:45:33,279
so wow that's pretty awesome that you

4196
02:45:37,990 --> 02:45:35,279
guys found something that

4197
02:45:39,990 --> 02:45:38,000
connected to y'all's story so

4198
02:45:42,469 --> 02:45:40,000
can i ask if y'all are in the same

4199
02:45:44,469 --> 02:45:42,479
area of united states is is

4200
02:45:46,550 --> 02:45:44,479
maybe that's a correlation

4201
02:45:51,590 --> 02:45:46,560
am i right i lived here

4202
02:45:54,870 --> 02:45:53,349
where are you at tony

4203
02:45:56,550 --> 02:45:54,880
i don't want to say right now oh okay

4204
02:45:58,950 --> 02:45:56,560
gotcha yeah so we just got our ass

4205
02:46:02,309 --> 02:45:58,960
kicked by uh minnesota so yeah we'll

4206
02:46:06,469 --> 02:46:04,550
texas got it

4207
02:46:08,469 --> 02:46:06,479
to florida one of those i don't know

4208
02:46:10,469 --> 02:46:08,479
[\h__\h] about football what is really doing

4209
02:46:12,710 --> 02:46:10,479
back there

4210
02:46:15,830 --> 02:46:12,720
he's he's petting petting his cow pillow

4211
02:46:19,269 --> 02:46:18,230
oh my god you're literally mouthing the

4212
02:46:21,830 --> 02:46:19,279
words

4213
02:46:25,830 --> 02:46:21,840
are you saying you're the alien that's

4214
02:46:28,150 --> 02:46:25,840
been mouthing them so

4215
02:46:29,990 --> 02:46:28,160
he did he he can't leave because if he

4216
02:46:30,950 --> 02:46:30,000
does the whole live stream is going to

4217
02:46:33,190 --> 02:46:30,960
end so

4218
02:46:34,950 --> 02:46:33,200
how about this guys let's go ahead and

4219
02:46:37,110 --> 02:46:34,960
we're about we're about 10 minutes away

4220
02:46:40,309 --> 02:46:37,120
uh from sor starting we want to be

4221
02:46:42,070 --> 02:46:40,319
respectful for our favorite show um sor

4222
02:46:44,230 --> 02:46:42,080
coming up space out radio if you haven't

4223
02:46:46,309 --> 02:46:44,240
subscribed check them out um and if you

4224
02:46:48,870 --> 02:46:46,319
haven't subscribed to the ufo garage

4225
02:46:51,510 --> 02:46:48,880
podcast this one the youtube channel

4226
02:46:55,190 --> 02:46:51,520
please subscribe um what i would love to

4227
02:46:56,790 --> 02:46:55,200
do guys is have everyone back on soon

4228
02:46:58,870 --> 02:46:56,800
and we could talk about our experiences

4229
02:47:00,550 --> 02:46:58,880
we can chat we can have fun we can how

4230
02:47:02,070 --> 02:47:00,560
about we just pop our tops off i don't

4231
02:47:13,349 --> 02:47:02,080
know we just start the whole damn thing

4232
02:47:18,070 --> 02:47:16,309
is on brand with with ufo garage i love

4233
02:47:20,389 --> 02:47:18,080
that dude so much

4234
02:47:21,750 --> 02:47:20,399
i i love it so much

4235
02:47:22,630 --> 02:47:21,760
so yeah

4236
02:47:24,150 --> 02:47:22,640
um

4237
02:47:25,590 --> 02:47:24,160
next time though i'm not going to be

4238
02:47:28,389 --> 02:47:25,600
wearing a shirt so

4239
02:47:29,269 --> 02:47:28,399
when we're on all on just be prepared

4240
02:47:31,830 --> 02:47:29,279
uh

4241
02:47:35,830 --> 02:47:31,840
for that my nipples are very small so

4242
02:47:37,110 --> 02:47:35,840
just to warn you guys but uh anyway

4243
02:47:40,710 --> 02:47:37,120
thanks for joining me for the little

4244
02:47:45,349 --> 02:47:40,720
after show a little bit and uh [\h__\h] um

4245
02:47:56,309 --> 02:47:45,359
we'll see you guys next week and uh hey

4246
02:47:56,319 --> 02:48:02,150
be crazy

4247
02:48:02,160 --> 02:48:08,710
has been another episode of ufo garage